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Posted Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:09 AM
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Jeff Moden (7/14/2013)

What I'd like to see is for MS to get back to some grass roots programming to make T-SQL what it should/could be. For example, fix Bulk Insert and BCP .....Make a Bulk Export that's as easy to use as Bulk Insert. Stop farting around .....fix PIVOT so that it's at least as it is in Access.


YES!!!!!!!

I'd also like to see crystal clear, unambiguous licencing that doesn't require a team of lawyers to understand.

I wish they'd port SQL Server to Linux but that is unlikely to happen. I'm seeing all our web servers and app servers in an accelerating move to Linux so we end up with a huge Linux estate and the remaining Windows servers are SQL Server. The inevitable will happen. "The rest of our estate is on Linux, find a DB platform that runs on Linux".


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"The rest of our estate is on Linux, find a DB platform that runs on Linux".


PostgreSQL is cross platform, but I don't think it has as many features nor the community that SQL Server has. However I'm using it on my Linux boxes.
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We have a number of MySql installations, which have multiplied quite a bit over the last few years. I started using it in another shop about 10 years ago, and although its feature set always seems to lag SQL Server's by a year or two, I like its ease of use, community support, and unambiguous licencing (it's a free Open Source product).

I'm increasingly uncertain about Microsoft's future, and having an Open Source alternative RDBMS seems to make sense to me. Not all the eggs need to go in one basket.
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I totally agree. I guess that the reason why Microsoft is like that is because they have to please shareholders more then clients. Shareholders are amazed and can understand only profits, no technological stuff.
I am a software developer and Microsoft has often filled their languages with useless stuff while has left out more important things, like, for example, supporting more about database components. Other software houses, like borland, even if it copes with smaller market, have done it better in my opinion. Microsoft has a better marketing vision and that's why it is a big firm.
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stefano.bozzoni (7/22/2013)
I totally agree. I guess that the reason why Microsoft is like that is because they have to please shareholders more then clients. Shareholders are amazed and can understand only profits, no technological stuff.
I am a software developer and Microsoft has often filled their languages with useless stuff while has left out more important things, like, for example, supporting more about database components. Other software houses, like borland, even if it copes with smaller market, have done it better in my opinion. Microsoft has a better marketing vision and that's why it is a big firm.


I guess. This is why, to a large extent, I hate when founders leave businesses. They become less of a business/company and more of just an investment.







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I totally agree. I guess that the reason why Microsoft is like that is because they have to please shareholders more then clients. Shareholders are amazed and can understand only profits, no technological stuff.
I am a software developer and Microsoft has often filled their languages with useless stuff while has left out more important things, like, for example, supporting more about database components. Other software houses, like borland, even if it copes with smaller market, have done it better in my opinion. Microsoft has a better marketing vision and that's why it is a big firm.


I guess. This is why, to a large extent, I hate when founders leave businesses. They become less of a business/company and more of just an investment.

The change in Microsoft happened long before BG left. If I remember correctly, he was full-time at MS until some time in 2006.
When MS was a technology company, it wrote compilers for all sorts of platforms - for example AppleSoft Basic was Microsoft's Basic for the mac, licensed to Apple for peanuts, released by Apple in 1977, on floppy disc as it was too late to be included in ROM in the first Apple release, and in Rom on Apple II plus in 1979 and all subsequent macs with ROM-based basic; this MS basic was essential to Apple's survival - Wozniak's Integer Basic was a pretty poor offering, fine for some uses of simple toys on which no-one wanted serious programing ability, but not really adequate to satisfy even the toy computer market, and was relegated to Floppy Disc from Apple II plus onwards, and stayed on Floppy disc on the Apple machines while Microsoft's code went into Apple's ROM. This ensured that people recognised that MS was a good (and cheap) source of compilers and interpreters, which was a view which Ms could have exploited. If MS had taken the same attitude to SQL Server as it had to Basic earlier on, we might have seen UNIX-based versions of SQL Server: of course, it may be that the terms of the Sybase deal precluded that. But so far as I'm aware none of MS C++, C#, and F# have been released other than on the windows platform, which suggests that the idea of spreading the expertise across platforms had died certainly before 2006 and equally certainly well before 2000 (when Gates moved from the CEO position to Chairman). So the "we are a software technology company" seems to have turned into "we are the windows company, and windows pays dividends" long before Gates retired from MS.


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... the "we are a software technology company" seems to have turned into "we are the Windows company, and Windows pays dividends" long before Gates retired from MS.

Which reminds me of an old saying: 'Milk the cow, but do not pull off the udder'.

Microsoft now faces udder catastrophe.

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Most of all I wish Microsoft would go back to being a technology company, with a focus on cool, exciting technology, with a leader that appreciates, uses, and understands how exciting technology can be.


I agree.

Microsoft is too busy with Marketing and seems to have lost sight on the tech factor.




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