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Posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:40 AM
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Posted Friday, September 3, 2004 11:35 AM


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SO glad to see someone evaluate moving jobs in this way - it just makes a whole lot of sense.  In over 30 years in IT I've moved for the right reasons and once for the wrong reason - BAD time had by my family as a result!  It's likely been said by many before, but "I work to live, not live to work" and "there are few on their deathbed who wish they could have spent more time in the office!" - I'll be one who looks back and is glad that the answers to David's questions in my life meant much happiness, less stress, respect from many peers, sufficient income and lots of fun (even at work!).

Yes, take David's questions seriously and enjoy life AND work - the two aren't mutually exclusive.

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Posted Monday, October 4, 2004 10:31 PM
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Hi there

Great article and brings a lot of relevent questions into play.

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Posted Monday, October 4, 2004 11:09 PM
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Good article

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Posted Tuesday, October 5, 2004 1:57 AM
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So many truths so eloquantly expressed.

One item missing is mention of the way that organisations can change too, often for the worse .

I work for a company that used to be a great place to work, I really loved working there.  Now that the company is struggling to identify its marketplace correctly  it has changed.  Instead of being a friendly open, honest place it all rigid, hidebound, hierarchial and secretive.  That this change has occured faster than the staff could change has created a situation where leaving is now the only option.  The company now has no loyalty to its customer or to its staff let alone the idea of the staff having loyatly to the company.

Obviously I can't say who I currently work for, but I work in England for a big US company that recently abandoned its heritage marketplace after 130 years.

My CV is in the post, so keep and eye out for it huh? 

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Been there, done that.

In any organisation, be it social, business or what ever there seems to be four types of people.

  1. Inspirational and dynamic.
  2. The willing workers.
  3. People along for the ride.

An organisation gets founded by type(1) with the help of type (2).  Type (1) keep new ideas coming.

Type(1) moves on and the organisation ticks along in the charge of type (2).

Eventually type(2) run out of steam and with no Type(1) to supply ideas the organisation begins to stagnate.

Type(2) moves on and the people in charge are now Type(3).  Any type(1) coming into the organisation is seen as a threat and will be crushed and so the organisation slowly disintegrates.

Short of a fifth column insurgence of type(1) the organisation will eventually fail.



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Posted Tuesday, October 5, 2004 7:01 AM


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David,

     Your piece about the 3 types in an organization is some of the best stuff (for lack of a better word) that I have come across in a long time.  I even passed it along to several of my co-workers as I find in our organization that we have many persons that easily fall into 1 of these types.

 

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Posted Tuesday, October 5, 2004 7:19 AM
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A very interesting and well put article.

Quite relevant to myself as I have just moved company having been at my previous one for 7 years. It was a big move to make and I would like to think that being in my late thirties I have had enough life experience to take a lot of the considerations in the article into account. I doubt whether I would have many years ago.

I spent over 9 months looking for the correct role, rather than just jump ship for the sake of it, taking into consideration travelling, company future, people, career directon etc. Too early to say yet, but so far it has been very worthwhile making the move.

So as David states, take all factors into consideration and best of luck if you do.



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Posted Tuesday, October 5, 2004 10:34 AM


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Excellent perspective!  Thank you.




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