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Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 12:36 PM


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I would agree there are plenty that don't want to work to get better. The same problem applies to doctors, but they manage to attract people willing to work. Shouldn't we?


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Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 2:35 PM
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Interest in computers/technology/data is one thing.

Interest in working in the work environments of IT is another thing quite different. The attitudes and macho-ism is daunting, not to mention that perennial, the rise thru positions, helpdesk is fine for females bit like receptionists but reach further and find the tide is always going out.

It is also thought with IT folk, give them the workspace no other department wants, no ventilation, no light coz we all so different from the rest that a monitor and computer is all we want from life. There's the business and then there's IT prevalent attitudes, girls don't buy into this.
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Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 2:56 PM


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I find that interviews are an interesting measure of how many people are interested in computers and how many are actually skilled at it. Judging from the numbers, there's certainly no lack of interest in computers no matter the disipline and no matter the gender. But there's certaily, as you say, a shortage of qualified candidates. There are a lot of people interested especially in the money aspect but very few who want to spend the time really getting good at it.

Perhaps the next generation saw the time their parents put into IT and decided not to do the same. That works out kind of good for us old timers. There's no age discimination when you're in demand.


Interest in computers or computing? I think tons of people like the gadgetry aspect of computers and see the use, but are there that many interested in learning how they work and how to build new systems? I'm not sure there are lots.

I would agree there are plenty that don't want to work to get better. The same problem applies to doctors, but they manage to attract people willing to work. Shouldn't we?


I should have clarified. Most of the interest isn't actually in computers or software. Most of the interest is in the $$$ some people make in the IT business.


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Many of us who started work in the 70s and 80s are approaching retirement. There will be a lot of opportunities for the younger workers coming along. We can encourage high school and college age students to consider IT as a career by allowing them to shadow us for a day or grant informational interviews to make it all more concrete in their minds. User groups could sponsor a career day for the local educational institutions. We don't have to wait for the employers to take the initiative to find new workers.
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I would love to see more women in this business personally. However, with the demanding off hours and last minute weekend emergencies it can be very difficult for many of them to maintain a household at the same time. This reminds me of a meeting I was once in where the manager stated that all the DBA's and Network Admins had to work late into that night on-site to get a big project into production and the one single mother said flatly. "I have children to pick up from school and feed, bath,and put to bed tonight. I'm sorry I just cannot do that." Well, to make a long story short, she did not last long there. For many of them, their after-work schedules, marriage, and children priorities prevent them from being able to keep the kind of strange off hours that this type of job often demands.

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