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Posted Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:02 AM


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frankcastle509 (12/28/2011)
you are probably looking to completely redesign your system and I think you should hire an expert for all your queries because you got lot of things to deal with and a minor mistake may affect your system very badly. you need a experienced MCSE AND MCSA Certified person along with any of the technical support team from vmware or hyper-v.


Either this is spam disguised as a totally non-sense comment OR ... let's pray is the first. Reported.


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frankcastle509 (12/28/2011)
you are probably looking to completely redesign your system and I think you should hire an expert for all your queries because you got lot of things to deal with and a minor mistake may affect your system very badly. you need a experienced MCSE AND MCSA Certified person along with any of the technical support team from vmware or hyper-v.


Either this is spam disguised as a totally non-sense comment OR ... let's pray is the first. Reported.


Another in the queue... But I am not sure...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic734794-1454-1.aspx


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Posted Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:05 AM
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Well what made you think that I am spammer. I Recently graduated as B.E. Information Technology student and trying power myself with the knowledge of IT Infrastructure and further taking up MCSE AND SQL Course studies. The post was a huge one and I thought a forum advice is not just enough and felt that discussing this issues with a team of technical experts was an good idea. He needed lots of upgrades on his system. I know you are the author of book on database and a knowledgeable person but you should have corrected or rectified my mistake instead of highlighting me as a spammer.
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Posted Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:13 AM


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frankcastle509 (12/29/2011)
Well what made you think that I am spammer. I Recently graduated as B.E. Information Technology student and trying power myself with the knowledge of IT Infrastructure and further taking up MCSE AND SQL Course studies. The post was a huge one and I thought a forum advice is not just enough and felt that discussing this issues with a team of technical experts was an good idea. He needed lots of upgrades on his system. I know you are the author of book on database and a knowledgeable person but you should have corrected or rectified my mistake instead of highlighting me as a spammer.
hope u understand me.


Your post came off as "spammy" because it sounded like you weren't adding much to the discussion and looked like you were setting up to sell your own services. Having an MCSE/MCSA is not the end all, be all. Fact is that many certifications have lost their luster due to people just cramming for exam just to pass them and add the alphabet soup to their resumes. All a certification shows is that you were willing to study and complete something.

I'm an experienced consultant and administrator, a SQL Server MVP, and an author. My opinion and expertise is based on experience. That being said, I'm not certified on any platform (Hyper-V or VMware). In fact I only have one cert that I passed earlier in my career just to get a raise. Does that mean my input/advice is worth any less than someone who just graduated from college and got an MCSE/MCSA? Just some food for thought.


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Sounds like neither virtualization, nor throwing even more hardware at the problem will fix it.

We've had pretty good success in partnering with our vendors in sharing performance data such as worst performing queries, blocking reports, reccomended indexes, least used indexes, ect, in order to make things better for the end users.

Many times they want to hear about this stuff because they often don't have dev environments that are close what their customers use in production, nor can they afford a large qa team. If you approach them correctly, with a little time spent, you can make things better for your end users and they get a better product to sell.

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Sounds like neither virtualization, nor throwing even more hardware at the problem will fix it.

We've had pretty good success in partnering with our vendors in sharing performance data such as worst performing queries, blocking reports, reccomended indexes, least used indexes, ect, in order to make things better for the end users.

Many times they want to hear about this stuff because they often don't have dev environments that are close what their customers use in production, nor can they afford a large qa team. If you approach them correctly, with a little time spent, you can make things better for your end users and they get a better product to sell.



Just make sure to charge them for the support (assuming your company had to pay for the product, too...)




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A good (and recommended) way of seeing if your server is good candidate for virtualization is to use the MAP Toolkit http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb977556.aspx

That will give you real nice analysis of how busy that server really is. If you run your analysis and CPU/memory/disk aren't being bottlenecked, you know your code sucks and you should get busy opitmizing. While virtualizing can potentially fix some headaches, it introduces more complexity that you may/may not be ready for.


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Just make sure to charge them for the support (assuming your company had to pay for the product, too...)



I wish it worked that way.

Though I'll settle for happy users. The payoff in productivity across the board is worth it.

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Just make sure to charge them for the support (assuming your company had to pay for the product, too...)



I wish it worked that way.

Though I'll settle for happy users. The payoff in productivity across the board is worth it.



Agreed on that part. But to allow that vendor to sell your improvement to others just sound plain wrong. If they don't invest the money for proper testing, they shouldn't be allowed to make money with improvements made by customers. Sad. Just sad.




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Well sir, I am not blaming anyone in this community but always trying to learn something which is knowledgeable and could be of great value to me.
Yes, experience is always respected more than what a certification is.
Frankly speaking I didn't passed any MCSE AND CCNA exam but I have attended all the training sessions for MCSE and CCNA and preparing for the exams as well.
I stepped in to this forum to learn from experienced and share with others as well. Finally try to share my knowledge as well.
I had worked and practiced on VMWARE and that tempted to read this post and post my views.

I am sorry if some of my posts looked spammy and will try to improve them further.
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