November 30, 2016 at 10:26 pm
Comments posted to this topic are about the item Learn to Earn
December 1, 2016 at 1:02 am
I call misuse of data. Josh Duffney has been in his professional career for 5 years. He has extended this further by working whilst studying. Many people in IT see a rapid increase in their salary in this early timeframe. Without comparison to salaries of his peers at college, for example, the data proves nothing. I managed to do the same thing in a quicker timescale and this was before PowerShell existed (but not not before electricity was discovered, thank you very much).
BTW I am neither knocking Mr Duffney nor his encouragement of his peers, us included, of continual learning.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
December 1, 2016 at 1:06 am
We also need to remember that continual learning in the latter part of peoples' careers leans more towards maintaining level of income including maintaining gainful employment. Over the last couple of years I have seen a few members of these forums that have struggled with this but have been successful in the long run. I am certain that this is due to their efforts to maintain their personal skill set (well done peeps).
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
December 1, 2016 at 6:46 am
Just learning something new is a benefit to my own self esteem, regardless of how it may have an affect on my long term status.
December 1, 2016 at 2:31 pm
Iwas Bornready (12/1/2016)
Just learning something new is a benefit to my own self esteem, regardless of how it may have an affect on my long term status.
Learning something new is also good for brain health. There's a wealth (no pun intended) of reasons for us to keep learning.
December 1, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Area Man Uses This Simple Trick To Double His Income (AND SO CAN YOU!!)
:rolleyes:
"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho
December 1, 2016 at 8:22 pm
Rod at work (12/1/2016)
I hope what you said in this article comes true. Been using Pluralsight to learn new skills. So far, nothing.
It's kind of like winning the lottery... you can't win if you don't play. The same holds true with your career. If no one knows you've been self training, why would they offer you more? And, once they know, if you don't ask, why would they offer you more?
In order for training to pay off salary wise, you have to...
1. Let people know you've been training.
2. Demonstrate your increased knowledge and skill.
3. Prove to the company that your increased knowledge and skill is a valuable thing to the company. It has to clearly demonstrate that you can do more in less time or do something much better in the same time or you can do something that you weren't able to do before.
p.s. If you start teaching others in your company, that will accomplish all 3 steps above and clearly demonstrate that you're a "company team player".
The other thing here is that the "Duffy" article is by a person that changed jobs 5 times in 4.5 years and went from being basically a button pusher to being a valuable programmer that also mentors others. In other words, he made a career change to a more lucrative and more valuable job title each time he changed jobs.
You can do the same maybe without changing jobs but you'll also need to take on extra responsibilities. Like I said though... if you don't let people know what you're doing and then demonstrate through your work that it has value to the company you're working for, nothing will come of it except some really good satisfaction on your part and something to add to your resume for the next job.
If you like the company you work for, let people know what you're doing and how it's helping the company. It's not a brag... it's a fact. 😉
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
December 3, 2016 at 8:04 am
On the flip side of thing, I do feel dumping my knowledge into my team is going to help me advance. I feel that the better I can train someone else and help them become better at what they do through new skills the better manager I become to my peers. I could see that helping me advance in my career, which would lead to higher salary while helping a eager mind learn new skills and improve existing skills.
However, I do feel learning new stuff is more about you than money. Regardless if your employer gives you a return on your learning investment, ultimately I do feel it does pay off in the future. For example, I've learned Python and currently use Python to do my job. This allows me to make data connectors that populates SQL Server without having to lean on a developer. Even if this didn't yield me a raise or whatever, I do feel another organization would see that as a huge win that I'm a SQL guy who also knows Python. Sort of helps separate me from all the other good SQL guys who don't.
December 6, 2016 at 6:04 am
At the weekend I talked this over with two former colleagues. We are all of a similar age and worked together for about three years in the mid-nineties. Our feeling was that under 40 learning progressed our careers but over that age it was more about maintaining your position. In recent years each of us have felt that at certain times we have been going backwards and also that changing jobs can be difficult because of ageism! It's sad that the government want to raise the retirement age and yet the majority of jobs for older people seem to be shelf filling and similar roles! 🙁
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