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Why so, though? First, why does ISNUMERIC return 1 when obviously parameter is of type char and not numeric? And then even assuming that a string of 1's can be treated as numeric because it has nothing but numbers in it why the limit to 309? Can anyone throw some light?
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Sauirabh, IsNumeric() returns 1 if the parameter could be converted to a number  but it doesn't have to be a numeric. So IsNumerc('123') will return 1, because you can easily convert string '123' to a number 123. More information can be found in MSDN article on IsNumeric().
As for the length constraint  according to the MS SQL Data Types list, "Floating precision number data with the following valid values: 1.79E + 308 through 2.23E  308, 0 and 2.23E + 308 through 1.79E + 308". Such numbers have 309 digits  hence the limitation.
However, either I don't understand something or there's something wrong, because my MS SQL 2005 installation returns the following:
 Returns 0, 1 respectively SELECT IsNumeric('2' + REPLICATE('0', 308)), IsNumeric('179' + REPLICATE('0', 306));
So numbers between 1.79E + 308 and 2.23E + 308 seem not to be taken into account.




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ZeroFusion (11/24/2009)As for the length constraint  according to the MS SQL Data Types list, "Floating precision number data with the following valid values: 1.79E + 308 through 2.23E  308, 0 and 2.23E + 308 through 1.79E + 308". Such numbers have 309 digits  hence the limitation. ... So numbers between 1.79E + 308 and 2.23E + 308 seem not to be taken into account. There's a typo in BOL2000. The correct range is "1.79E + 308 through 2.23E  308, 0 and 2.23E  308 through 1.79E + 308".
ISNUMERIC() returns a 0 against any string longer than 309 characters, even if it is numeric. Is this considered to be an explanation? This is completely incorrect. There are many 310, 311, and even 600character long strings for which ISNUMERIC returns a nonzero value, for example:
SELECT ISNUMERIC('' + REPLICATE('1', 309)), ISNUMERIC('+' + REPLICATE('1', 309) + '.'), ISNUMERIC(REPLICATE('1', 300) + '.' + REPLICATE('1', 299)) These strings can be converted to the float data type. So ISNUMERIC() returns 1 as a result.
Please correct the explanation... ZeroFusion said about data type conversions  that's the reason.
Anyway, thanks to the author for making me to do some investigation about SQL Server data types and data type conversions. It was quite interesting




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The answer is not completely accurate stating that 'any string longer than 309' will return zero.
SELECT ISNUMERIC(REPLICATE('0', 610)) returns '1'.
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I would be happy to correct the explanation but I can find no means of doing so. I assume this ability is restricted to administrators, or else it is very difficult to find.
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I was a little lucky on that question because i didn't remember the limit of a float was 1,79E+308 (so 309 length), i thought of a very shortener length ! 309/310, close question about float limit string representation ! :)
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I can only assume the issue with replicating 610 zeros is the number property of zero. But regardless that is a good catch ... made me think a bit.




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That's a big number. How do you report that on your financials? Numbers represented in $000,000,...,000,000?
It made me do a search on the net for big number names (see http://www.sizes.com/numbers/big_numName.htm). It was interesting to find that the number 1 billion can mean something different in other countries. Fantastic.



