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Posted Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:23 AM
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yep my thoughts too re SCOM/SCOME. If your company has the resources to pay for 47 SQL licenses then perhaps it should invest in SCOM which via built-in and downloadable management packs provides out-of-the-box monitoring across systems and servers/services. I don't work for Microsoft, but if there is a business case/need to provide good quality monitoring/support then I'd prefer to buy a product rather than engineer a 'free' version.

Hey I like the idea of SCOME, especially when there is no chance of purchasing anything to do the job for me :)
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I have created a few SQL Reporting Services reports for my daily DBA tasks but keep adding servers (dev and stage) that I want to check. So this article is timely....if he shows me how to find errors in SQL Server error logs so my SQL reports can read it, I'll have to send him a present....

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I have created a few SQL Reporting Services reports for my daily DBA tasks but keep adding servers (dev and stage) that I want to check. So this article is timely....if he shows me how to find errors in SQL Server error logs so my SQL reports can read it, I'll have to send him a present....

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"He" has a report for it! It uses xp_readerrorlog to retrieve the logs and does a wildcard search on keywords such as "failed".
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Drew,

I read your article on SCOME and it is very interesting.

I do have a separate test server for myself to do various dba testing before implementing it in prod.

In my previous job, I used to monitor 50 sql server db.

I did write and schedule T-SQL scripts like failed jobs written to a table on the same server and later copy it over to the test server table using dts/ssis.

I used a sql server procedure which can generate a html report of the table query and wrote to the network drive.

This html report can then be viewed from any desktop using browser with a periodic refresh.

I was able to write to check for Disk Space, Failed jobs etc.

Looking back at it, I think it is a poor man's way of doing things.

Let me test your approach and see if this can be useful in my current job.

I have never worked on ASP (have some power builder and excel vba experience).

I assume this is a good place to start with what i know and what i can learn new.

Thanks for sharing your experience.


Murali


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Yes, please keep it simple. I'm an Oracle DBA who now has to also run MSSQL databases. I don't know VB, .Net, C#. I'm learning some TSQL (this site is a big help) but I'm really not that eager to learn VB, .Net or C#. A project like this one, with what I need to type in a c/p format, may make it interesting to start to learn some of those things.

I look forward to your series of articles.
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Drew, the thing that confuses me about sites like the one you describe - which I know are perfectly common - is how they manage the licensing - both logistically, and the cost!

My SQL Server is heavyweight piece of hardware - 128 GB memory, 8x2 core, multi-channel io, Equalogics array - with multiple instances on it and most database packed into a single instance (we add multiple instances only when a 3rd party product has unreasonable demands like "must have server adm" or "keeps flushing the whole datacache").

The was MS licenses, that keeps the license cost low. Splitting that across 4 2x2 core machines would be twice the cost. Unless your virtual 2003 servers are all on one box - I sense they aren't - doesn't that waste a lot of licensing money?

That's what I never understand about sites that don't have this consolidated. We have a strong culture of centralization and consolidation, and we were doing client/server databases long before MS took over the Windows port of Sybase SQL Server, so we never fell into that "SQL Servers everywhere", but I know it's a real common issue.


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Roger L Reid (4/22/2009)
Drew, the thing that confuses me about sites like the one you describe - which I know are perfectly common - is how they manage the licensing - both logistically, and the cost!

My SQL Server is heavyweight piece of hardware - 128 GB memory, 8x2 core, multi-channel io, Equalogics array - with multiple instances on it and most database packed into a single instance (we add multiple instances only when a 3rd party product has unreasonable demands like "must have server adm" or "keeps flushing the whole datacache").

The was MS licenses, that keeps the license cost low. Splitting that across 4 2x2 core machines would be twice the cost. Unless your virtual 2003 servers are all on one box - I sense they aren't - doesn't that waste a lot of licensing money?

That's what I never understand about sites that don't have this consolidated. We have a strong culture of centralization and consolidation, and we were doing client/server databases long before MS took over the Windows port of Sybase SQL Server, so we never fell into that "SQL Servers everywhere", but I know it's a real common issue.


Consolidation makes a lot of sense, but there is still one problem with it: proper resource management and allocation. Even with your resources one still needs to ensure that one database/application will not end up hogging all resources at the expense of all others. Having individual instances makes resource management easier and more efficient by making it possible to define min/max memory and CPU-mapping per instance.

In SQL 2008 Enterprise Ed there is something called Resource Governor which I think addresses this problem, but there is nothing else like it that I am aware of.


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Roger L Reid (4/22/2009)
Drew, the thing that confuses me about sites like the one you describe - which I know are perfectly common - is how they manage the licensing - both logistically, and the cost!

My SQL Server is heavyweight piece of hardware - 128 GB memory, 8x2 core, multi-channel io, Equalogics array - with multiple instances on it and most database packed into a single instance (we add multiple instances only when a 3rd party product has unreasonable demands like "must have server adm" or "keeps flushing the whole datacache").

The was MS licenses, that keeps the license cost low. Splitting that across 4 2x2 core machines would be twice the cost. Unless your virtual 2003 servers are all on one box - I sense they aren't - doesn't that waste a lot of licensing money?

That's what I never understand about sites that don't have this consolidated. We have a strong culture of centralization and consolidation, and we were doing client/server databases long before MS took over the Windows port of Sybase SQL Server, so we never fell into that "SQL Servers everywhere", but I know it's a real common issue.


Roger, don't even get me started on licensing. It's a bit of a sore subject where I work. I've covered my ar*e and made my recomendations to the people at the top, but Microsoft are on their cases now. All the servers are hosted on 4 big VMWare boxes. They've been going Server-CAL for the past few years, but I've been trying to get them to go EE CPU for each VM box. All SQL Servers on each box are licensed that way.
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Drew,
I read the article with the anticipation of seeing how you managed to create the sidebar seen here.

How did you manage to get that?

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Hi Patrick,

Here's the link to the free menu...

http://javascript.cooldev.com/scripts/outlook/
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