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Posted Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:20 AM


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At the risk of sparking a flame war about tape, why did you have to choose tape as the medium for backup in your title?
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Posted Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:02 AM


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GDI, at the risk of sounding ignorant, which I am, what do you think would have been a better title? Are you thinking of another storage medium? (Just questions, not accusations).

Some where I once say a chinese proverb that went "Pale ink better than good memory". Kinda hits the point on a couple of levels.


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The issue isn't about backups, it's about security and how this happened and who did it ... we should burn them at the stake
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Posted Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:48 AM


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One advantage for tape is it's a proven technology at this point. The flaws in it are well known, and pretty easy to compensate for.

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The issue isn't about backups, it's about security and how this happened and who did it ... we should burn them at the stake

No, it's about Data Integrity which is why most enterprises have off-line, off-site backup tapes. After all, what did this hacker do that a fire or a software bug couldn't have done?


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Now that's just malicious and nasty. ... this is just vandalism. It serves no purpose. It's likely no one even knows it was "M@M@sB0Y" or some other hacker, so there's no fame, and it disrupts people who just want to converse with colleagues.


I'll bet the hacker who did this posted the "feat" on one of the many hacker websites where they like to brag about these things.
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misdirected youths. they should be testing their mettle against something more interesting and worthwhile, like pulling data out of Chinese Military Defense systems or something.

Defacing/attacking a community website? Pointless at best.
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A need for tape? Why would anyone question that? All good disaster recovery plans use tape for offline and offsite storage. The disaster recovery needs to be documented. It should also be practiced at least yearly. I have yet to see a disaster recovery plan that didn't use tape.

Backing up to attached disks is fine for quick restore but those units need to be backed up to tape and stored offsite.
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There was a case (I think back in the late 90's) where a disgruntled IT director took the backups (tapes and removable drives) and erased them all, and then planted a worm that each morning he had to disable. Apparently no one really cared for this person at the Architecture firm where he worked and finally, he was fired. The day after his firing people came in, turned on their machines and were informed some maintenance needed to be run - in fact, it was the worm that ran and formatted every hard drive in the company. This fellow was easily traced of course, arrested and if I recall correctly, he got four years in prison. Sadly, the company went out of business within a year and though they did pursue damages, there was really nothing they were going to get from this guy.

Tape backups are fine, and yes, a good idea. But the reality is that anything that can built, can be un-built, or in short, hacked. Anyone in the IT field who does not believe this lives in a fantasy world. Its documented that even the Pentagon and NSA computers have been hacked at times.

What we need are much more stringent legal avenues to meet this problem. This is just the sad reality of it. There are going to be hackers who want fame amongst other hackers, and there are going to be those who see their jobs in IT as their own private Kingdoms and God help anyone who challenges them. We cannot avoid this - its human nature in some devious and partially devious people.

But if you knew that you would spend say 20 or 30 years in jail for such behavior, wouldn't that at least help deter this kind of thing? I think so, and I don't see any other way to address the problem.


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