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Posted Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:04 AM
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Hi to all

I want use for practice and learning purpose the SQL Server Integration Services ETL tool and Business Intelligence Developement Studio to builds/develop packages/etl processes.

What I want ask is if there exists one Express version of SSIS and BIDS such as SQL Server Express Express Edition and Microsoft SQL server management studio.

On my pc I installed SQL Server 2012 express edition and SQL Server management studio. Is it possible integrate in some way the SSIS and BIDS with them?

thanks in advance.
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previn1980 (7/26/2014)
Hi to all

I want use for practice and learning purpose the SQL Server Integration Services ETL tool and Business Intelligence Developement Studio to builds/develop packages/etl processes.

What I want ask is if there exists one Express version of SSIS and BIDS such as SQL Server Express Express Edition and Microsoft SQL server management studio.

On my pc I installed SQL Server 2012 express edition and SQL Server management studio. Is it possible integrate in some way the SSIS and BIDS with them?

thanks in advance.


First of all, welcome to the forum. SQL Server 2012 has a new approach to the Business Intelligence via the Data Tools, look for SSDT instead of BIDS.
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Posted Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:02 PM
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Eirikur Eiriksson (7/26/2014)


First of all, welcome to the forum. SQL Server 2012 has a new approach to the Business Intelligence via the Data Tools, look for SSDT instead of BIDS.


Thanks irikur Eiriksson,

but, I installed on my pc SQL Server 2012 EXPRESS Edition. Is it possible to use the Data Tools and SSDT in Express Edition? .... if so, how to do?

thanks
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Eirikur Eiriksson (7/26/2014)


First of all, welcome to the forum. SQL Server 2012 has a new approach to the Business Intelligence via the Data Tools, look for SSDT instead of BIDS.


Thanks irikur Eiriksson,

but, I installed on my pc SQL Server 2012 EXPRESS Edition. Is it possible to use the Data Tools and SSDT in Express Edition? .... if so, how to do?

thanks

Must say I haven't tried it but the data tools should work with any edition of SQL Server. Maybe someone can help us out here???

In the mean time check this out
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Posted Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:03 PM
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Sorry if I do not understand.

So, SSDT is an integrated CLIENT tool in Visual Studio which replaces BIDS for develops etl packages/processes. Is it right?

If so, what's the SERVER side program that run and execute that etl packages/processes build with SSDT? Is it SQL Server 2012 express edition?
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previn1980 (7/26/2014)
Sorry if I do not understand.

So, SSDT is an integrated CLIENT tool in Visual Studio which replaces BIDS for develops etl packages/processes. Is it right?

If so, what's the SERVER side program that run and execute that etl packages/processes build with SSDT? Is it SQL Server 2012 express edition?


For that you need to have Enterprise, Business Intelligence, Standard, Developers or Evaluation edition. Here are more details, Features Supported by the Editions of SQL Server 2012
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Posted Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:01 PM


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SSDT is now the BIDS client tool for working with Business Intelligence projects with SQL Server. You can download SSDT from here that includes support for SQL Server 2014 as well.

Once you have that installed you can work with the projects from within the SSDT environment, you just would not be able to deploy the projects to an actual SQL Server instance. The services (or components) do not exist with the SQL Server Express Edition. You would just execute your projects from within SSDT. I believe most books or tutorials you work through to get familiar with SSIS task and building of actual packages will work with just SSDT and a database in Express Edition. The only thing lacking would be the deployment process itself. This is the type of environment I generally use for development and general testing of certain things with SSIS or SSRS.

If you would like to also work on having the projects deployed and run within an environment or instance of SQL Server similar to a real production system then I would suggest purchasing a developer license. The developer edition is same functionality and features of Enterprise Edition. This will provide the components for SSIS, SSRS, and SSAS (the services that execute or run the packages/files). General cost of Developer Edition is about $50 (U.S.).

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One addition, you can actually download SQL Server Express with Advanced Services (download and install this file: ENU\x64\SQLEXPRADV_x64_ENU.exe). This will include the SSRS.


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Posted Saturday, August 9, 2014 8:33 AM
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Sorry I'm a bit confused about SQL Server Data Tool (SSDT).

What I read on internet is this: "SQL Server Data Tools (SSDT) is a toolset which provides an integrated environment for database developers to carry out all their database design work for any SQL Server platform (both on and off premise) within Visual Studio. Database developers can use the SQL Server Object Explorer in VS to easily create or edit database objects and data, or execute queries."

But what is not clear to me is: if I haven't installed a SQL Server engine (e.g. SQL Server 2012), how to and where SSDT run/execute DDL/DML queries and store my .mdf file??

What I want ask to you is: Do SSDT is only a client tool or it provide also a server engine for run/execute DDL/DML queries and store my .mdf file??

thanks.
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