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Posted Monday, March 4, 2013 12:05 PM
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I have not used it. Might in the future but will continue to use other avenues to get the information to MS when appropriate.

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Posted Monday, March 4, 2013 1:54 PM


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Gary Varga (3/4/2013)
. . . As a community we want better products and know that our collective opinions and knowledge count.

Microsoft has people who "own this line of communication." They need from time to time someone to let them know that their performance is under scrutiny.
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Posted Monday, March 4, 2013 3:45 PM
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I've largely given up on Connect. Sometimes I'll get a reminder about an item or a notification of something that could use some support, but too many I've submitted got a "Closed - will not fix" type response to make it worth my while submitting any sort of report. If I thought it was important enough to submit as a bug, then it should at least get some sort of pertinent comment indicating that someone actually looked at it and considered it.

I've also seen some things submitted that show up well after the fact as "fixed in the next version" which is just about equally useless if our company isn't upgrading to the next version so we can use whatever was fixed.

Sure it works sometimes, but on the whole I find it an exercise in futility to submit anything and just concentrate on finding a workaround instead.



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Posted Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:54 AM
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I'm still waiting for an explanation of why hundreds of perfectly valid bug reports were recently deleted. Even if they were closed as "won't fix", it was useful to know that the bug existed, and to see any possible workarounds.

I've lost count of the number of links to Connect bug reports I've clicked on in recent months which return "page not found" errors.

And I've seen too many valid bugs closed with comments to the effect that "we haven't got time to fix this now; we'll look at it later" which have then never been fixed.



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Posted Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:14 AM


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richardd (3/5/2013)
I'm still waiting for an explanation of why hundreds of perfectly valid bug reports were recently deleted. Even if they were closed as "won't fix", it was useful to know that the bug existed, and to see any possible workarounds.

I've lost count of the number of links to Connect bug reports I've clicked on in recent months which return "page not found" errors.

And I've seen too many valid bugs closed with comments to the effect that "we haven't got time to fix this now; we'll look at it later" which have then never been fixed.


Far from professional behaviour. Corporate responsibility Microsoft? Eh?


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Posted Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:51 AM
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Gary Varga (3/4/2013)
. . . As a community we want better products and know that our collective opinions and knowledge count.

Microsoft has people who "own this line of communication." They need from time to time someone to let them know that their performance is under scrutiny.


Please tell them that the cost of filling in all the fields required in a thorough manner is overwhelmingly too high to be worthwhile based on the expected response, which is for nothing to be done - this is overwhelmingly the most common response. The second most expected response is a note in the Connect article of "Will be fixed in next version", followed by it still being an issue in the next version. This is like the first response, except users have to wait quite awhile to see that.

It takes hours to do a thorough study of an issue, write up good explanations and precise instructions for how to repeat the results, as well as exploring for workarounds and writing up any found. For very interesting or intermittent issues, it takes much longer.

If it takes 4 hours to do that, and we expect less than 5% of Connect items to actually have something done about them, then we expect to spend in excess of 80 hours of effort per item actually addressed... with no idea which one of the items submitted will be addressed, if any.

Sorry; in all but the most critical cases, it's simply not worth the time.
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Posted Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:05 PM


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One of my favorite ones is: https://connect.microsoft.com/SQLServer/feedback/details/778203/books-on-line-has-bad-email-address-for-send-feedback
Pretty much the moral is: feedback does not work by design and it won't be fixed

It actually works for me, so it looks that Microsoft fixed it.
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Posted Friday, March 15, 2013 6:26 AM


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magasvs (3/13/2013)
One of my favorite ones is: https://connect.microsoft.com/SQLServer/feedback/details/778203/books-on-line-has-bad-email-address-for-send-feedback
Pretty much the moral is: feedback does not work by design and it won't be fixed

It actually works for me, so it looks that Microsoft fixed it.


Unfortunately mail servers cannot send an automated response nor could they automate it to be processed by another system...hold on...erm...


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Posted Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:28 PM
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Steve can you post this for adam?

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