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Where should the DBA position be in the IT structure? Expand / Collapse
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Posted Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:16 AM


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To get back to the original question, Jason and Remi .

I think we need more information about what your job duties are supposed to be before anyone can really say where you should be.

If you are an operational DBA, meaning mostly backups, monitoring, patches, applying best practices, security, then I think you should be in the Server & Network group, but not necessarily a domain admin.

If you are doing more development (sp's, database design, etc...) and T-SQL tuning then you should be more closely aligned with the application development group.

If you have to do it all, then you really should be your own group and report directly to the head of the IT department.

These are just my opinions and how I'd want to be aligned based on duties. Ideally I'd like to be in the last option.


Don't forget the work from home dba. Part of their duties is to do the dishes.


And laundry, mow the lawn, BBQ. Go fish, etc.

Busy days around here on the lake .

Glad we're back on topic.
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Posted Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:18 AM


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To get back to the original question, Jason and Remi .

I think we need more information about what your job duties are supposed to be before anyone can really say where you should be.

If you are an operational DBA, meaning mostly backups, monitoring, patches, applying best practices, security, then I think you should be in the Server & Network group, but not necessarily a domain admin.

If you are doing more development (sp's, database design, etc...) and T-SQL tuning then you should be more closely aligned with the application development group.

If you have to do it all, then you really should be your own group and report directly to the head of the IT department.

These are just my opinions and how I'd want to be aligned based on duties. Ideally I'd like to be in the last option.


Don't forget the work from home dba. Part of their duties is to do the dishes.


And laundry, mow the lawn, BBQ. Go fish, etc.

Busy days around here on the lake .

Glad we're back on topic.


Watch the kids
Change diapers

This topic covers a lot of ground.




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Posted Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AM


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This topic covers a lot of ground.


I'm so glad you qualified what covered that much ground. I had a totally different picture in my head at first
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Posted Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:23 AM


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Ah, I can always count on SSC for a laugh.

The work from home DBA is what I aspire to be. Hopefully that will happen soon.

I don't have to change diapers though, my kids are older than that now. I'll be the next one in diapers in my house.




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Posted Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:28 AM


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This topic covers a lot of ground.


I'm so glad you qualified what covered that much ground. I had a totally different picture in my head at first



And the very notificaton in my box is by "Tom Brown".

What else could it have been, really?


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The Database Administration group stands alone. The DBA cannot report directly to the manager of software development. This creates a conflict of interest. This alignment allows the manager of development to direct the duties of the DBA. A software manager may desire to bypass change management or override the recommendations of the Database Management team. Tasks and projects need to be discussed rather than assigned.

The Database Administration group should also not be under networking. A Networking Manager typically does not understand enough about databases to accurately plan for projects and tasks.

The database group works WITH all groups and needs to stand alone in the organizational structure reporting to IT Management.

In large meetings, the database group needs accurate representation for proper planning. If they do not stand alone in the org, who will be able to discuss what type of hardware is warranted? DR issues? availability? Scalability? These issues differ dramatically when you are dealing with a file server, mail server or database server.

Certainly the software engineers are NOT qualified to speak on behalf of the database backend.
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That is one of the better comments I have seen on any tech forum. I agree and I appreciate the feedback.

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Flavours of DBA? No wonder I felt the strain for many years juggling the Admin side, the dev side AND the BI side! Sometimes my brain melts when I read up a new area of SQL that I've never touched yet seems to be used by everyone.
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