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Posted Thursday, February 3, 2011 9:24 PM


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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 1:43 AM


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Definitely T-SQL itself!
For no other reason that you can draw Mandelbrot with it.
(http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Stupid-Coding-Tricks-The-TSQL-Madlebrot.aspx)
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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 1:47 AM
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Google is most definitely both, and sometimes its main logo is the toy.


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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 4:24 AM


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Interesting discussion. I would say a tool is an aid to solve a problem, whilst a toy provides its own justification for use. For instance, if you buy an iPhone because you want one, then come up with ways to use it afterwards, it's basically just a toy. However, if you're always on the move and need to be able to make phone calls, do your email and retrieve information from the Web whilst you're travelling, the iPhone may well be an efficient tool.

I think almost anything whose use could be seen as enjoyable can end up alternating between being a tool and a toy. At certain regular times each day, our kitchen is basically a family fuel distribution centre, but come the weekend it may well end up as a playground instead. Similar distinctions can be made for my PC, my car, my bike and so on. If you're using something for the pleasure of using it, it's a toy. If you're using it to help you achieve a necessary end, it's a tool.

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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 7:42 AM


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First off, children are not allowed in my office room at my home, period. But with that said, I think toys and tools are interchangeable. For example, my Corvette is definitely a useful tool, it gets me to and fro, but it is also most definitely my favorite toy too. My iPhone is a very useful tool with alot of extended functionality, but is also just great to play around with too. I can think of several more examples where tools and toys are definitely interchangeable, but you get the idea.

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I think of life in terms of it being a game, so pretty much everything is a toy to me. Even such dangerous tools as tablesaws and nuclear bombs have their (limited) entertainment value.

(Think of the fireworks display you could do if you could reasonably expect to survive a series of nearby nuclear explosions! Maybe on the moon or something like that!)


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If only the Tardis on my desk was actually more than a USB port and I could time travel about the universe. It's not really a toy, but it sort of hides the fact that it is just a tool. My surfboard is a ...? I need to exercise and surfing (or just paddling) get my cardio up, and most the time it's fun. If it's fun, does it necessarily make it a toy? I consider the computer a tool but my kids definitely think of it as a toy. Maybe it's just your state of mind. TGIF!
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Alan Vogan (2/4/2011)
....If it's fun, does it necessarily make it a toy?...

To my mind, no. I think it's just emphasis. If you're using the surfboard for exercise and fun is a spin-off benefit, it's a tool. If you're using it for fun and the health aspects are a spin-off benefit, it's a toy.

IMHO, of course...

TGIF!

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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 9:16 AM


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I recently won an iPad. It has some nice SQL monitoring tools as well as email and Citrix so it works great as a tool. It also has Angry Birds, Worms, Pandora and guitar amp modeling so it's a great toy, just ask my kids. There's also my bikes. They are tools in that I commute to work year round, get groceries and haul lumber on them, but they're also a great source of fun and entertainment. Tool and toy are not mutually exclusive and many things fit happily as both.

Since it's Friday do you think I can get away using things as toys instead of tools at work today? Like surfing the web on my work computer instead of working on those SSIS packages

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Posted Friday, February 4, 2011 12:35 PM
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This reminds me of the saying "The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys."

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