Training for Managers

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  • Something that people either aren't aware of or have forgotten... the option of in-house training by the resident experts is a powerful tool that's frequently over looked. It also builds "esprit de corps" and also helps the resident experts because you do have to know your stuff to teach it.

    I used Lunch'n'Learns a lot in the last couple of companies. You'll be amazed at the kind of performance you can get out of people for the price of a couple of pizzas, some soda, and a nice salad. It's real good practice for those making the presentations and it looks awesome on a resume, as well.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • One more thing, give training / education and development of your people will also increase happiness. Most people want to move on and move forward in their personal development and other people knowing of the investment of the people in the company will value that as will other people when they look for some new place to go to.

  • I've always believed that at least two out of the following need to be present for a person to be happy in their job:

    - money

    - learning

    - interest

    If you have a good salary and you're doing something you like then you're comfortable at present

    If you're doing something you like and you're learning a lot then you're working towards your future

    If you're learning and earning a lot then you're working towards your future and comfortable(-ish) at present

    I think it's good for managers to look at what they should be offering you in this context since they'll know the level of salary you're getting, how much training/development you're getting and how much you enjoy the role. If your staff are only getting one out of three things, then adding one of the others should be pretty easy to do and it removes another reason why they might consider leaving.

  • "The only thing worse than training everyone and having some of them leave is not training any of them and having them all stay."

    --Zig Ziglar

  • This seems like the "solution" editorial to some of the recent ones.

    One thing I would like to see managers trained in is recognizing different types of teams. You can have lower skilled people who provide quick and dirty solutions, or higher skilled that build more solid code. Either team can keep your company profitable, but you need to know which one you have, which one you want and how to manage for it. (Obviously there are more varieties and I'm leaving out details.)

    I prefer a team of mixed skills. It allows for mentoring as part of your training and can better adjust to changes.

  • Right on Steve! Training always increases your employee's potential impact in the company, and if you ever start to think that one untrained individual employee is just too small to impact your business, then just try going to sleep when there is a mosquito in the room. 😀

    "Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ...:-D"

  • stephanie.sullivan (5/6/2010)


    I've always believed that at least two out of the following need to be present for a person to be happy in their job:

    - money

    - learning

    - interest

    If you have a good salary and you're doing something you like then you're comfortable at present

    If you're doing something you like and you're learning a lot then you're working towards your future

    If you're learning and earning a lot then you're working towards your future and comfortable(-ish) at present

    I think it's good for managers to look at what they should be offering you in this context since they'll know the level of salary you're getting, how much training/development you're getting and how much you enjoy the role. If your staff are only getting one out of three things, then adding one of the others should be pretty easy to do and it removes another reason why they might consider leaving.

    Well said, very concise.

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  • AspiringGeek-40457 (5/6/2010)


    "The only thing worse than training everyone and having some of them leave is not training any of them and having them all stay."

    --Zig Ziglar

    Excellent! I'm going to have to remember that quote.

  • As a manager, your job is to get the most productivity that you can from your group. Training is an investment that helps you achieve that aim. Some employees might feel they are worth more money once they are trained, but is that bad? If they are more productive, more skilled, aren't they worth more money? After all, a better trained employee should get more work done, or at least make less mistakes. If they do that, they should be producing more money for the company, so I would think that they would then be more valuable to your department.

    I like this paragraph. When one neglects training for the staff due to fear of them leaving, that is managing through fear. That type of management will seep into more facets of management and start to be viewed by more and more of the employees. Why manage through fear? That doesn't invoke any better productivity or will to stay

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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  • AspiringGeek-40457 (5/6/2010)


    "The only thing worse than training everyone and having some of them leave is not training any of them and having them all stay."

    --Zig Ziglar

    I love it and it's sooooo true. Thanks for posting it.:-)

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Jeff Moden (5/5/2010)


    Something that people either aren't aware of or have forgotten... the option of in-house training by the resident experts is a powerful tool that's frequently over looked. It also builds "esprit de corps" and also helps the resident experts because you do have to know your stuff to teach it.

    I used Lunch'n'Learns a lot in the last couple of companies. You'll be amazed at the kind of performance you can get out of people for the price of a couple of pizzas, some soda, and a nice salad. It's real good practice for those making the presentations and it looks awesome on a resume, as well.

    I'd like to try this here, any tips on how to go about developing short classes like this? I relly have no clear idea how to start.

  • Lynn Pettis (5/6/2010)


    Jeff Moden (5/5/2010)


    Something that people either aren't aware of or have forgotten... the option of in-house training by the resident experts is a powerful tool that's frequently over looked. It also builds "esprit de corps" and also helps the resident experts because you do have to know your stuff to teach it.

    I used Lunch'n'Learns a lot in the last couple of companies. You'll be amazed at the kind of performance you can get out of people for the price of a couple of pizzas, some soda, and a nice salad. It's real good practice for those making the presentations and it looks awesome on a resume, as well.

    I'd like to try this here, any tips on how to go about developing short classes like this? I relly have no clear idea how to start.

    First get team leads to buy in. Then get your manager to buy in. Always make the lunch n learn an optional meeting. You could also do it as a breakfast and learn (bring in breakfast items instead).

    If you can, I would start off by footing the bill for the food and whatnot the first couple of times.

    Pick your topics ahead of time, create a presentation and demo. Try to get the leads from each area to also create a 10-15 minute presentation. The lunch n learn only needs to be 30 minutes of presentation but can be longer if people are interested. Leave some time at the end for socializing. Send out invites early and remind people.

    If possible, also try some different venues so people can get out of the office and not have to be in the office all day 1 day a month.

    Last tidbit, once a month is a good interval. If you want to do them more frequently - go ahead but not too often.

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
    Learn Extended Events

  • ask people for topics they'd like to see, there may be things they're working on that they can use help with.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    How best to post your question[/url]
    How to post performance problems[/url]
    Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

    "stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."

  • jcrawf02 (5/6/2010)


    ask people for topics they'd like to see, there may be things they're working on that they can use help with.

    That is a great tip.

    Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
    _______________________________________________
    I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
    SQL RNNR
    Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
    Learn Extended Events

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