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Miles Neale
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I got to be real for a minute or so here. We work in a very pressured business with targets that change like the wind. Users do not usually appreciate what we do and we can be fired for doing the right thing even at the right time. We can be the scapegoat or the villain just because marketing or others will not standup and admit that it was them. This causes us to be emotional. Some times real emotional.

Also if you are going to be good in IT areas you have to be passionate.

Now pushed by the drive and desires, over burdened with too much work, and stressed just because of the type of work we do we often will be curt, rude, or just mouthy. Some would say that it comes with the business, it does not. We can still be nice and stay away from being rude and mouthy. Just like when we get home and we check the attitude at the garage door we need to shelve the feelings, frustration, and even anger when we deal with others in the profession. If you have to yell or get angry play golf or go home and split some wood with the old splitting maul, but do not yell at those who would help you get past the problem. It does not work well that way.

But when one on this board or other boards fires up a spout of lava, just let it be and treat it as their turn. Smile help them and go on. Your time will also come!

M.

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lsager 34516
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I think maybe, when people have been in a particular field for a long time, they may forget what it is like to be the newbie. This is the start of my 3rd career and I was very successful in my past two. I had a lot of responsibility and knowledge that was in high demand and respected. Now I work for and with people half my age and am seen as ignorant with some. I realize it comes with the territory, and I like learning and gaining new skills so I deal with it.
However, and the reason for my post, I do not come to your sight for help. The responses that I have read for other people's questions usually ooze with sarcasm and cynicism and my ego can only take so much, so I generally do not go out looking for someone to tell me how lazy or ignorant I am. Some of us try to learn on our own but then we get stuck and nothing seems to make sense and so we reach out for a little help. Please remember that just because people don't understand the way that you do doesn't mean they are lazy or not trying, it just means they don't understand what you are saying, the way you are saying it. Maybe there is a shared fault. It is frustrating to not understand something. It is equally frustrating to not be able to make someone understand, and there is never any good reason for insults and profanity on either side.
I hope this helps.
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lsager 34516 (10/11/2013)
I think maybe, when people have been in a particular field for a long time, they may forget what it is like to be the newbie. This is the start of my 3rd career and I was very successful in my past two. I had a lot of responsibility and knowledge that was in high demand and respected. Now I work for and with people half my age and am seen as ignorant with some. I realize it comes with the territory, and I like learning and gaining new skills so I deal with it.
However, and the reason for my post, I do not come to your sight for help. The responses that I have read for other people's questions usually ooze with sarcasm and cynicism and my ego can only take so much, so I generally do not go out looking for someone to tell me how lazy or ignorant I am. Some of us try to learn on our own but then we get stuck and nothing seems to make sense and so we reach out for a little help. Please remember that just because people don't understand the way that you do doesn't mean they are lazy or not trying, it just means they don't understand what you are saying, the way you are saying it. Maybe there is a shared fault. It is frustrating to not understand something. It is equally frustrating to not be able to make someone understand, and there is never any good reason for insults and profanity on either side.
I hope this helps.


I hope that this is a comment in general and not a response to what I wrote here in the previous post. There are many here who will help, and there is a lot of information to be had. Yes there are some who have been rude and suggest that others are lazy but that is not the end of the story.

When you are stuck please continue to reach out, there is help here. You might have to ignore the posts of an idiot from time to time but just because a foolish prattler responds inappropriately do not think that all will do so.

M.

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lsager 34516 (10/11/2013)
I think maybe, when people have been in a particular field for a long time, they may forget what it is like to be the newbie. This is the start of my 3rd career and I was very successful in my past two. I had a lot of responsibility and knowledge that was in high demand and respected. Now I work for and with people half my age and am seen as ignorant with some. I realize it comes with the territory, and I like learning and gaining new skills so I deal with it.
However, and the reason for my post, I do not come to your sight for help. The responses that I have read for other people's questions usually ooze with sarcasm and cynicism and my ego can only take so much, so I generally do not go out looking for someone to tell me how lazy or ignorant I am. Some of us try to learn on our own but then we get stuck and nothing seems to make sense and so we reach out for a little help. Please remember that just because people don't understand the way that you do doesn't mean they are lazy or not trying, it just means they don't understand what you are saying, the way you are saying it. Maybe there is a shared fault. It is frustrating to not understand something. It is equally frustrating to not be able to make someone understand, and there is never any good reason for insults and profanity on either side.
I hope this helps.


I'm so sorry you feel this way. I've seen responses like that and I do my best to help stop them and respond to people kindly when they're seeking help. Please don't hesitate to post your questions here. I assure you the rude posters are in the minority.

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