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An interesting example of data gravity and cloud computing and personal data being physically held somewhere with more lax laws in your editorial Steve.....

In Europe, at least, I think the law states something like personal data cannot be physically or electronically transferred to another non-EU country. So for the EU countries, at least, I don't think this will be a future driver for distributed data.

There will be other valid drivers of course in the future for distributed/clouds etc...

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Another point to consider when moving data are the laws surrounding intellectual property rights and patent protection. Some countries may have less protection and so you may not want to move your data there.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes legally relevant where the data is administered from if it isn't already.

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Interesting editorial and good points, Steve. It will be interesting to follow the economics of data gravity as the barriers (costs) to moving decline. Will we see a "haven" of virtual applications that either doesn't "tax" cloud-application-generated revenue or one that taxes it least? Food for thought...

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david.moule (3/7/2012)
In Europe, at least, I think the law states something like personal data cannot be physically or electronically transferred to another non-EU country. So for the EU countries, at least, I don't think this will be a future driver for distributed data.


Not strictly true:

http://www.bbb.org/us/european-dispute-resolution/
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Most companies won't bother trying to avoid laws like this right now, but at some point in the future, the cost of moving an application to another country might be tiny. We constantly build better tools for distributed development, deployment, and management, and whether it's a cloud infrastructure, or just a rented VM, we may find that it becomes worthwhile in some cases to move data, not just for cost reasons, but potentially to reduce the costs of compliance with local laws.

I don't think a US corporation can avoid SOX or HIPAA regulations simply by locating their applications and/or data offshore.


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Doesn't the concept of a highly-interconnected network (i.e. the Internet) kind of make the issue of data location null & void? I can understand if you are running a private cloud but not the public cloud we all think of. Indeed, the ability to move data around is a good reason to use the public cloud. Should be interesting to see how this turns out. I predict a lot of lawyers involved :-)


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Eric M Russell (3/7/2012)

I don't think a US corporation can avoid SOX or HIPAA regulations simply by locating their applications and/or data offshore.


Hope not, but more than a few have avoided gambling laws by doing so. I don't think systems have the same SOX requirements when overseas. I suspect the entire business unit might need to be there, but spinning off a company is not a big deal these days.

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While companies are trying to move to locations where laws are lax there are others that are forced to create entire datacentres for one market (china). the laws can be too restrictive that you have no choice to built out your private cloud like this. In this case the cost of building a multi tenant system was considered more than setting up to data centre

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