Tom,

So you're "down" on Chris Date? Don't you give him credit for authoring the most widely used textbook on relational database structure and SQL?

Or is it that you liked his early work, but when he started publishing things like The Third Manifesto with Hugh Darwen he seemed to show that maybe his early success had gone to his head.

Maybe you can enlighten me as to your thoughts on authors such as Selko, Jim Gray or maybe even Fabian Pascal?

Marvin