Ok, this disscussion has been great.

Let's remember - Database or Application first; That is the question?

I wish the business would know that question before trying to build solutions out of tools such as Microsoft SharePoint flat tables with zero relationships, but one big huge 100 + columned table, then ask the technical team to build reports from it. Fun fun fun...

So then I ask the question, how do you tell the business that they should not be trying to build solutions without an custom application or database.

🙂 CHEERS....

By the way, I truley believe in having a project kick off once a Charter and Business Requirements Document is produced and that kick off includes

Enterprise Architect

DBA LEAD

Application Developer Lead

Tester LEAD

I believe it is esitial to have those folks in from the get go.

That way you have everyone working together.