• ...a final salary pension and life insurance...

    the pay is just 30% lower than industry

    I sometimes wonder what extra proportion of our income those of us in the private sector would have to sacrifice to get the same pension...but then we'd still have a defined contribution and not defined benefit scheme. But the stock market never goes down and trashes pensions does it?

    There is no problem so great that it can not be solved by caffeine and chocolate.