• I was never impressed with Erwin, I did use Popkin system architect for many years, but these tools are far too expensive for most companies. I have Visio included with Technet/msdn subscription and I probably will buy at some time  dezign  http://www.datanamic.com/dezign/index.html

    I used the demos and was impressed - much cheaper too!

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