Thats fine but we all have to learn somewhere and Im guessing you all were not born with the ability to do SQL. I am thinking you too had to learn somewhere. Now that you are experts you seem to forget that. So when a person is asking a question of you on this site which I had assumed was a forum to do just that I don't think a sarcastic response is called for. I never assumed anyone was a psychic. But that's ok I now know this is not a site for helping someone that is not an expert and I will not ask another question on this site. Thank you for the assistance I did get tho.