The Pros and Cons of Terabyte Phones

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  • ... I don't know of any mobile to PC infections yet, but I do know there are lots of smart people out there. It's just a matter of time before someone starts to try and exploit the capabilities of modern mobile devices, especially those with large storage capacities...

    One plausible scenario, where an employee's mobile device would unknowingly be used to infect or breach the corporate network, would be something like a file explorer or synching app, something with a trojan that activates special programming when it detects the user has connected to an intranet.

    The following examples are not exactly what I've described above, but it shows how even popular and trusted apps can betray our trust.
    https://www.techrepublic.com/article/major-vulnerability-found-in-android-es-file-explorer-app/
    https://www.technadu.com/adware-doctor-mac-app-store-spyware/40916/

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Don't see much practical value.

    So you can store 400,000 pictures on a phone. Why? Are you really going to be perusing thousands of pictures on a tiny 3x5 screen???

    And if you need access all kinds of stuff it's probably available from your cloud account.

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    -- FORTRAN manual for Xerox Computers --

  • There are some applications (for example if you're a journalist, documentary film maker, or security guard and need to stream body-cam video to your cell phone), where 1 TB of local storage would be essential.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Eric M Russell - Monday, February 4, 2019 9:59 AM

    There are some applications (for example if you're a journalist, documentary film maker, or security guard and need to stream body-cam video to your cell phone), where 1 TB of local storage would be essential.

    I don't think documentary film makers or security guards would be typically relying on a cellphone (and the number of them is a very tiny fraction of the phone market)

    1 TB will store about 7500 hours of 1080p, that's most of a year, 24 hr a day. Is someone realistically going to store that much LOCALLY where it can be lost stolen or damaged? 

    It's even ridiculous overkill even for applications like that.

    [Professional photographers often carry standalone drives to download their shots, a RAW image from a Nikon can get pretty large, but the sure don't use a cellphone for that]

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    -- FORTRAN manual for Xerox Computers --

  • jay-h - Monday, February 4, 2019 11:47 AM

    Eric M Russell - Monday, February 4, 2019 9:59 AM

    There are some applications (for example if you're a journalist, documentary film maker, or security guard and need to stream body-cam video to your cell phone), where 1 TB of local storage would be essential.

    I don't think documentary film makers or security guards would be typically relying on a cellphone (and the number of them is a very tiny fraction of the phone market)

    1 TB will store about 7500 hours of 1080p, that's most of a year, 24 hr a day. Is someone realistically going to store that much LOCALLY where it can be lost stolen or damaged? 

    It's even ridiculous overkill even for applications like that.

    [Professional photographers often carry standalone drives to download their shots, a RAW image from a Nikon can get pretty large, but the sure don't use a cellphone for that]

    Are you sure about the estimated number of video hours that a 1 TB disk can hold?
    I was thinking that one hour of compressed 1080p video would be about 3 GB for a total of 341 hours.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • There are certainly uses, and plenty of people keep a decent level of video or images on phones.

    I shot 30-40GB yesterday for a volleyball match and might easily shoot 120GB across a weekend tournament. If I don't get time to move all that video off, I can burn 200GB in a month.

    Your use and perspective  is yours, but plenty of people would use hundreds of GB.

  • If there is concern about data loss from personal devices connecting to company PC's, set a group policy that disallows connecting mass storage via USB and any device via Bluetooth.

  • If you  have a need to record hours of video, many Android phones have a microSD slot, and for iPhones there are thumbdrives with an Apple Lightning connector. Actually, a TB of removable storage has additional advantages.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Outside storage has advantages, and plenty of disadvantages. Loss, forgetting to keep it, security issues of plugging, probably more.

    It's not good or bad. It's just a choice, and glad that I have it. Just got a new phone with 64GB, but it does have the SD slot, so I added 128GB. Hoping that ensures I don't run out for the foreseeable future, but there was a time when I thought 32GB, then 64GB was plenty.

    Just like 640k used to be fine.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:22 AM

    Outside storage has advantages, and plenty of disadvantages. Loss, forgetting to keep it, security issues of plugging, probably more.

    It's not good or bad. It's just a choice, and glad that I have it. Just got a new phone with 64GB, but it does have the SD slot, so I added 128GB. Hoping that ensures I don't run out for the foreseeable future, but there was a time when I thought 32GB, then 64GB was plenty.

    Just like 640k used to be fine.

    I started out with 64k (as in Commodore 64) and recall having to swap out the program floppy disk with a data floppy disk every time saved changes to my word processing document. I recall the thrill when someone showed me how to compress the program disk so that it had enough free space to hold one or two documents. Of course, then it took 10 minutes for my word processor to boot up. Those of us from Generation X grew up with one foot in the old world and the other foot in the new. 🙂

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • I remember those days. I also remember typing format a: too many times with the wrong disk in the drive and regretting my actions.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Tuesday, February 5, 2019 10:32 AM

    I remember those days. I also remember typing format a: too many times with the wrong disk in the drive and regretting my actions.

    You didn't put black tape over that little square notch on the side of the disk?

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • At times, but often when switching disks, some disks needed writing. Easy to confuse which one you're working with.

  • good old days - setup a new server - huge 10MB MFM disks where we had to manually enter the bad sectors (written on paper on the back of the disk) onto debug setup.
    or installing a pretty fancy Sco Xenix desktop - 72 floppies bound to fail on the last one and having to restart all again after long hours doing it.

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