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The Lost Time


The Lost Time

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I am not a great fan of daylight saving and here in the UK would prefer to stay on BST the whole year round. When I commuted it made no difference as I left in the dark and came home in the dark.

For a time I worked on telephone networks and call logging. Clock changes were a nightmare as you needed to sync the network (easier these days with central clocking) and catch erroneous data. One example was someone would make a 2 minute call and be logged as having made one for 1h 2m or 23h 2m depending which way the clocks went. It was all sorted in the end but showed things had not been thought through!
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I agree.

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I totally agree. Time is essentially represented as a scale data type starting from an agreed zero point. When the clocks change you are effectively removing or adding units from the scale in a rather arbitrary fashion. It doesn't feel right to me at least from a data perspective.
SELECT DATEDIFF(HOUR,'2019-03-31 00:00:00', '2019-03-31 02:00:00')
This returns 2 hours but there are not 2 hours between 12AM on the 31st of March and 2AM on the 1st of April. There is only 1 hour because 1AM effectively does not exist as the clocks skip to 2AM.
A scale should be a scale not a scale with bits taken out here and added in there!
You could just as easily say from 31st of March 2019 we all just get to work an hour later and leave work an hour later.
It also completely messes with my biological clock!
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I was brought up on a farm and the argument was always about daylight hours for working. Being an annoying child I could not see if you were limited to seven hours of daylight whether it mattered if you started at 7:00, 8:00 or 9:00!
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mjh 45389 - Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:00 AM
I am not a great fan of daylight saving and here in the UK would prefer to stay on BST the whole year round. When I commuted it made no difference as I left in the dark and came home in the dark.

For a time I worked on telephone networks and call logging. Clock changes were a nightmare as you needed to sync the network (easier these days with central clocking) and catch erroneous data. One example was someone would make a 2 minute call and be logged as having made one for 1h 2m or 23h 2m depending which way the clocks went. It was all sorted in the end but showed things had not been thought through!


BST was a temporary wartime measure first brought in in world war one , rescinded after the war , re-introduced in world war two and retained afterwards. GMT on the other hand was the scientifically determined time as a result of astronomical observation so if anything we should do away with BST and remain on GMT as anything else is a social artefact .
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I've always agreed with Steve that DST is a waste of time. Now Europe is talking about getting rid of it, with individual countries getting to choose which time they take. That could lead to situations where you travel East but the clocks go back or vice-versa. I'm also torn between which I would prefer - it getting light stupidly early in the morning in the summer - or it staying dark awfully late in the morning in the winter.

Am starting to wonder if it's not so bad after all.
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Agreed. Daylight Saving Time serves no purpose and id needlessly problematic.
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For business it causes problems.
The one reason I like it is the extra hour o daylight after work. Thats a big plus

My personal feeling is that time sensitive business should ALL be run on UTC in the background, only converting to local time for display purposes.

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I agree, but then, at least for some states like Indiana, it brings up a new debate as to which time zone the state or area should permanently move to. In Indiana, high noon by the sun is around 12:30. So no matter which zone you go to, you are still off a half hour. It was not too many years ago, Indiana exempted itself from DST, but the argument was "What time is it in the neighboring state". You cannot win for loosing in my state.
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