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Fingers crossed this all goes smoothly! Let me know if I can help with testing
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Looking forward to it Steve, hopefully things will go as smoothly as they can.


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This is a nice project to read about. Thanks,
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Glad to see you moving forward on this migration. Let us know if we can help!
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Steve,
Have you ever published an architectural overview for SQL Server Central, similar to what other websites like Stack Overflow and Netflix do?
Also, while the hood is up, have you considered using a document store database like Azure DocumentDB for archiving and indexing the content ?


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We've published things a few times, but not anything in awhile. Our system is fairly simple, but it's probably worth documenting. We do have the stats live at monitor.red-gate.com, where the actual data is replicated from our internal systems to a publicly visible demo version of SQL Monitor.

Not sure what CosmosDB (formerly DocumentDB) would do to help us. If we removed data, we'd likely archive to another SQL Server database, and we could use distributed views to do that, but the amount of data is really small (GBs), so not sure what we'd get from CosmosDB.

That being said, I'd like to set up some project with that and experiment.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:07 AM
We've published things a few times, but not anything in awhile. Our system is fairly simple, but it's probably worth documenting. We do have the stats live at monitor.red-gate.com, where the actual data is replicated from our internal systems to a publicly visible demo version of SQL Monitor.

Not sure what CosmosDB (formerly DocumentDB) would do to help us. If we removed data, we'd likely archive to another SQL Server database, and we could use distributed views to do that, but the amount of data is really small (GBs), so not sure what we'd get from CosmosDB.

That being said, I'd like to set up some project with that and experiment.

Building it all out on SQL Server does present an opportunity to showcase SQL Monitor. But here is why I raised the question about Azure CosmosDB (or more specifically, DocumentDB):
It seems that the bulk of SQL Server Central content is forum posts, editorials, summary stats, and source code. This can be modeled relationally, if you leverage blob data types. However, it's more naturally structured as documents, mostly html text with meta-data tags. Also, CosmosDB is very scalable in terms of user request throughput (~ $500 / month for 10,000 request units per second), and you can dial the RU/s up or down as needed.



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There are a few things with that. First, we focus on SQL Server, so we want to host on SQL Server.
Second, there are things we do that can be modeled as documents, but aggregating those together and working in groups is better handled relationally, IMHO. I think forum posts, which are linked and cross linked, are a better relational fit than a document. Questions and answers, likely better relationally.

For the articles, sure, those are better fits for documents, like DocumentDB, but since I also need to put things together later, that might not be easy.

However, at our data volume, this is a wash, and the request count is tough to calculate and decide what's better. Ultimately I think doing this on DocumentDB would work, but there would be a learning curve, perhaps a large one, and things might not be as smooth.

It's easy to napkin scratch how things might work. Much harder to actually make them work. Perhaps even harder to port them over and deal with the issues as you get things running.

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Awesome. I cannot speak for others but the ability to simply copy and paste code from SSMS without something wonky going on with the format would be key to me. Second to that would be the ability to simply paste graphics from a tool like the "old" windows snipping tool a drag'n'drop that actually worked.

And, yeah... I'll be happy to test the dickens out of both of those things for you.

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