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The Worst Data Breech


The Worst Data Breech

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This is a great example of a government intruding where it doesn't belong in something it doesn't understand. We should be designing systems that are secure, but most companies can't even do that. Now governments are dictating that back doors be designed into a system? This is wrong at so many levels.

There are already too many unintentional back door into more systems than anyone can count. The USPS vulnerability was discovered a year ago and didn't find it important enough to patch until about 2 weeks ago. I agree with Steve - we don't want companies writing less secure software. There's enough bad software out there already.


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It would be interesting to see some statistics about how many terrorist attacks or criminal operations have been discovered and/or successfully prosecuted by surveillance of internet communications. Does the net effect of internet surveillance really make the public safer? Criminals and terrorists actually use hacked accounts to do things like operate under stolen identities or launch denial of service attacks.


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Not happy seeing this. Terrible idea with long reaching implications. A false choice is provided between freedom and the pretense of security. Encryption works and is something even basic computer literate people can use. Because this is digital instead of physical people don't get it. Remember back before email was popular? We sent mail through the Post Office. How is this different from someone opening your letters and correspondences prior to delivery?
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We shouldn't allow criminals, terrorists, hostile nations, or political dictators to set our agenda.


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Jeff Mlakar - Monday, December 10, 2018 3:35 PM
Not happy seeing this. Terrible idea with long reaching implications. A false choice is provided between freedom and the pretense of security. Encryption works and is something even basic computer literate people can use. Because this is digital instead of physical people don't get it. Remember back before email was popular? We sent mail through the Post Office. How is this different from someone opening your letters and correspondences prior to delivery?

It isn't very different at all. The only difference is that now, it's automated and can run far, far faster than anything could have in ages past.



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Ed Wagner - Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:27 AM
Jeff Mlakar - Monday, December 10, 2018 3:35 PM
Not happy seeing this. Terrible idea with long reaching implications. A false choice is provided between freedom and the pretense of security. Encryption works and is something even basic computer literate people can use. Because this is digital instead of physical people don't get it. Remember back before email was popular? We sent mail through the Post Office. How is this different from someone opening your letters and correspondences prior to delivery?

It isn't very different at all. The only difference is that now, it's automated and can run far, far faster than anything could have in ages past.

My point exactly. It is no different than opening mail or planting a camera pointed at your house to track activity. Did you see the Equifax report today from the house committee? Mind blowing...
https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/10/equifax-breach-preventable-house-oversight-report/

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Imagine that you're at the shopping mall, and a sales associate follows you out of the store, keeping notes about every other store you visit, and even following you home, so they can find out where you live. That would feel like you're being stalked, and it may even be illegal. But websites like Google, FaceBook, and Amazon do essentially the same thing.


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Eric M Russell - Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:21 AM
Imagine that you're at the shopping mall, and a sales associate follows you out of the store, keeping notes about every other store you visit, and even following you home, so they can find out where you live. That would feel like you're being stalked, and it may even be illegal. But websites like Google, FaceBook, and Amazon do essentially the same thing.

Preach! It is effectively mass surveillance. It has nothing to do with security and everything to do with control and power.

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Jeff Mlakar - Tuesday, December 11, 2018 12:40 PM
Eric M Russell - Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:21 AM
Imagine that you're at the shopping mall, and a sales associate follows you out of the store, keeping notes about every other store you visit, and even following you home, so they can find out where you live. That would feel like you're being stalked, and it may even be illegal. But websites like Google, FaceBook, and Amazon do essentially the same thing.

Preach! It is effectively mass surveillance. It has nothing to do with security and everything to do with control and power.

Common across the ancient folklore of many different cultures is this concept that: If you have intimate knowledge about something (or someone), like their "True Name" for example, then you have power over that thing. That's why our ancestors were reluctant to share information with strangers or others outside their family or tribe. The same can be said for personal data in the modern world. Using mass media and various reward systems, we've been taught to share information about ourselves, and now the political and economic elite are exploiting that data to manipulate our daily lives so as to maintain power or channel the flow of wealth.

Just like there are many lawyers who are critical of the legal system and many doctors who question conventional medicine, we in the data community should resist to urge to jump on the Big Data and Internet Everywhere bandwagon. We need to stop seeing technology as just shiny new toys that can entertain and make us money, and instead start seeing the big picture. You know, if the public should wake up one morning and come to the conclusion that databases are evil, then suddenly we'll be perceived as the bad guys too. If we don't self police our industry and kick the bad priests out of the temple, then people will lose respect for our profession.



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