Availibity group and windows cluster

  • We are planning to install a SQL server 2017 standard. But in near future we probably will create another instance on another site for mirroring this server.
    I know standard edition has basic availability group feature. My question is can we install SQL server first, and later if we need the second server, then configure the windows cluster.
    Or we have to configure windows cluster now before install SQL server in order to use availability group in future?

    Thanks much

  • Personally I would create the cluster at the start, all be it a 1 node cluster and enable the AOAG feature, as doing that later needs a restart of the service and if you dont have downtime when adding in other replicas then you cant do it.

    But you then may have downtime so its an "It Depends" answer.

    Also depending on your version of the Operating Sytem you could also look at clusterless AOAGs

  • sqlfriends - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:02 PM

    We are planning to install a SQL server 2017 standard. But in near future we probably will create another instance on another site for mirroring this server.
    I know standard edition has basic availability group feature. My question is can we install SQL server first, and later if we need the second server, then configure the windows cluster.
    Or we have to configure windows cluster now before install SQL server in order to use availability group in future?

    Thanks much

    You can start with standalone machines and create the WSFC later, this has no effect on any instances you may have installed.
    You would need to enable the instances for AGs once the WSFC has been formed.

    Are you planning to use Windows 2016 as the Server OS?

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  • anthony.green - Thursday, March 29, 2018 3:13 AM

    Also depending on your version of the Operating Sytem you could also look at clusterless AOAGs

    These are not as easy to setup as a traditional WSFC, they also have various limitations.

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  • Thank you.
    I use  standard edition of SQL server 2017 on windows 2016.
    So I guess I can only use the Basic availability group. Above you described also applies to BAG too. Correct?

    We can have downtime for this case. So probably we can do it later.

  • sqlfriends - Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:40 AM

    Thank you.
    I use  standard edition of SQL server 2017 on windows 2016.

    basic only then

    sqlfriends - Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:40 AM


    So I guess I can only use the Basic availability group. Above you described also applies to BAG too. Correct?

    We can have downtime for this case. So probably we can do it later.

    Yes, you can form the cluster later and setup the group

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