We Have a Date

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  • SQL Server 2016.. it was nice knowing you but you are already obsolete, I only had time to implement one install of you.  Just yesterday one of our software vendors JUST certified their latest version of software on... get ready for it.. SQL Server 2014 !!!!!

  • SQL 2016 isn't obsolete by any standard, neither is 2014. Both have been superseded, but are fine products if they meet the needs for your application.

  • Great to see that SQL 2017 has a date. Would love to know when SP4 for 2012 is due though. That was due this month but no sign as yet.

    Thom~

    Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
    Larnu.uk

  • Woohoo. And just a few weeks after we have finally migrated the last of our production databases off of 2005. Sadly we only upgraded to 2014 but hey at least our production databases are at least using a currently supported version. :crazy:

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  • Thom A - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:51 AM

    Great to see that SQL 2017 has a date. Would love to know when SP4 for 2012 is due though. That was due this month but no sign as yet.

    Word is "soon". Not sure what that means.

  • Sean Lange - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:57 AM

    Woohoo. And just a few weeks after we have finally migrated the last of our production databases off of 2005. Sadly we only upgraded to 2014 but hey at least our production databases are at least using a currently supported version. :crazy:

    You're ahead of me here. We're still on 2008. Hopefully that changes in the next six months.

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:59 AM

    Thom A - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:51 AM

    Great to see that SQL 2017 has a date. Would love to know when SP4 for 2012 is due though. That was due this month but no sign as yet.

    Word is "soon". Not sure what that means.

    Ha. It was "soon" back in June/July. 🙂

    Thom~

    Excuse my typos and sometimes awful grammar. My fingers work faster than my brain does.
    Larnu.uk

  • Sean Lange - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:57 AM

    Woohoo. And just a few weeks after we have finally migrated the last of our production databases off of 2005. Sadly we only upgraded to 2014 but hey at least our production databases are at least using a currently supported version. :crazy:

    Don't feel too bad, I'm *almost* done getting all my servers off 2008R2 to 2014.
    I had someone ask me yesterday when we'd be going to 2017, my answer was "only when someone comes to me and says there's this really neat new feature in 2017 that we just HAVE to have!"
    Then it'll probably still be 6-9 months just to get the server stood up and installed, another several months (or more) to get SSMS17 approved for use on our network, plus a couple months for the desktop people to figure out how to install it, get that approved and tested...

  • Not sure if the Graph database is worth it, sounds like the implementation as some limitations.  Of course Paul Nielsen may be biased considering what he and his company http://www.tejontech.com has developed.

  • From the editorial,

    ...as I'm not completely sure that containers are the best choice for database systems, but I am considering them as a possible replacement for VMs.

    Would you mind elaborating on that some more,either here or in another editorial.  Just about all of my knowledge about containers comes from you mentioning them.  But I'm a little confused by that statement.  If a container is good enough to replace an entire VM, and people run database servers in VMs, then...then why not a container for a database system?

  • The graph implementation is limited, at least compared to other platforms. I'm not sure I'd use it, but I would love to see some testing here compared with a relational structure. Maybe I can get Jeff or someone to run a multiple level match with 1mm rows.

  • jasona.work - Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:28 AM

    Sean Lange - Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:57 AM

    Woohoo. And just a few weeks after we have finally migrated the last of our production databases off of 2005. Sadly we only upgraded to 2014 but hey at least our production databases are at least using a currently supported version. :crazy:

    Don't feel too bad, I'm *almost* done getting all my servers off 2008R2 to 2014.
    I had someone ask me yesterday when we'd be going to 2017, my answer was "only when someone comes to me and says there's this really neat new feature in 2017 that we just HAVE to have!"
    Then it'll probably still be 6-9 months just to get the server stood up and installed, another several months (or more) to get SSMS17 approved for use on our network, plus a couple months for the desktop people to figure out how to install it, get that approved and tested...

    The biggest win is that we are no longer replicating data from our flat file data source from the AS400 to sql server. We couldn't even use sql server replication, we instead had to use a third party replication tool designed for replicating that type of data.

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    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 1 – Converting Rows to Columns - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/63681/
    Cross Tabs and Pivots, Part 2 - Dynamic Cross Tabs - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Crosstab/65048/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 1) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69953/
    Understanding and Using APPLY (Part 2) - http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/APPLY/69954/

  • All you guys with SQL Server 2014 certification listed on your resume; you're like 2 releases behind already. Try to keep up. 😉

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Eric M Russell - Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:42 AM

    All you guys with SQL Server 2014 certification listed on your resume; you're like 2 releases behind already. Try to keep up. 😉

    We are still on SQL Server 2012.  Not looking at upgrading at the moment, but hoping to soon.

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