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Posted Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:25 PM
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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:21 AM
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Hi

Just a suggestion - but when you are doing your workday bit - you should really ensure you get the right setting for datefirst into the script, otherwise you might find it going horribly wrong...



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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:32 AM
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The article tries to cover too much ground and ends up doing none of the topics justice. In particular, the first function described would have been much better implemented as an additional column on the calendar table -- a key benefit of such tables is that they allow results to be looked up rather than calculated.
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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:36 AM
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Very nice article Alex, thank you.

Indeed IsBusinessDate 'Y' or 'N' is great for building an understanding of the concepts, I remember when I implemented this functionality using something similar; I used the name of the holiday in the HolidayName field ('Sunday', 'Saturday', 'Easter', 'Independence day', etc. ) and considering as business day the records where HolidayName is null or empty.
This helped me when I was asked "why there are less working days this month?" , and I had the answer at hand. Also it was easy for the HR to define company's holidays as they might change during the year, by just typing the name of the holiday in the interface.

I am curious in approaching multiple calendars, i.e. for different departments or for different geographies.

For example: National days are different for most of the countries but also some religious holidays, Italian branch of one company has the Easter holiday in another period of time than Russian branch.

Also for production department some Saturdays might be business/working days since for sales dept. Saturdays might be weekends/non business days.

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Iulian Cozma

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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:09 AM
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I'd agree with feakesj, we've got an 'is working day' bit field. Work out the days by counting that value between the two dates, simple. Looks this is an over engineered solution. However, I will admit that this solution dosnt work well if multiple sites/ business units have different holidays, but then again neither would the articles solution.


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Someone should really make a list of US Federal Holidays. You would think that data.gov would have something like that.

As many have done before me, I ended up making my own table. None of the solutions I found online addressed the move of fixed-date holidays to prior Fridays or following Mondays. And most of them had Groundhog Day in there like that actually means anything outside Punxsutawney.
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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:00 AM
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Andrew,

Is this any good for you? - http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2010.asp

btw, Groundhog Day was on TV this weeend in the UK, hadn't seen it in years :)



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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:11 AM


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wildh (9/23/2010)
Andrew,

Is this any good for you? - http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_schedules/fedhol/2010.asp

btw, Groundhog Day was on TV this weeend in the UK, hadn't seen it in years :)


This is the master list as provided by the US government, but it's not very easy to parse.
Someone needs to make this list into something clean like XML, JSON, etc. Hell, even a CSV would be better than parsing 10 web pages with weekday names and optional asterisks.
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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:29 AM
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Is this any good - http://facility9.com/2009/04/23/populating-us-federal-holidays-in-a-calendar-table/
or -
http://sqlserver2000.databases.aspfaq.com/why-should-i-consider-using-an-auxiliary-calendar-table.html

We have a similar issue in the UK but it's only a 10 min job to crib it from a web site into a update script. But hang on, then it's a 4 month wait for the DBA's to run it.



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Posted Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:52 AM
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Many times I have had to ask what portion of this date range was non-work time.
This does indeed vary by geography so we have added gmt start and end for each holiday.
We then have to handle four cases to determine the overlaps so the function has to sum the time from UNION ALL of the cases.

I can post this function if anyone is interested but if there is a better way please let me know.
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