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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:56 AM


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I like the comic and think that Ninja has it right. An ebook could possibly generate a lot of revenue.


Congrats on the 10K / champion level. I can't wait to see how fast you'll pass me!


Thanks - not very many in that group. I don't think it will be anytime soon based on workload I see coming down the pipe.




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Single user case study: Raw Materials got me back into the forums when I spun by off a link from another site that had some instructions on a task I was performing.

Now, while a few people might think that's a reason to immediately take it down and burn it...

I followed the links down, then went to the boards... and got involved.

Leave Raw Materials around. Sometimes humor is the only way to get through to my boss(es) when they're wearing anal top hats and stopped paying attention to the experts they paid for.



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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:00 AM


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Even better than an ebook... I'd pay good money to get a 3X6 poster of a few of those comics to put in my office. And depending on the circumstances point them to whoever's annoying me in my workplace.


You could probably sell those for $5 each. I think there would be enough people interested in that.



Not quite enough. Just shipping and printing would cost more than that.

I'm talking 3X6 FEET ... or whatever the actual ratio is.
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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:03 AM


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I like the comic and think that Ninja has it right. An ebook could possibly generate a lot of revenue.


Congrats on the 10K / champion level. I can't wait to see how fast you'll pass me!


Thanks - not very many in that group. I don't think it will be anytime soon based on workload I see coming down the pipe.


Ya but I don't post anymore. I think I got like 3000 points in the 2+ years since I jumped ahead of Steve for the first 1 ever to 10K posts... I used to do that in 2-3 months when I was realllllly active here.
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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:05 AM


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Single user case study: Raw Materials got me back into the forums when I spun by off a link from another site that had some instructions on a task I was performing.

Now, while a few people might think that's a reason to immediately take it down and burn it...

I followed the links down, then went to the boards... and got involved.

Leave Raw Materials around. Sometimes humor is the only way to get through to my boss(es) when they're wearing anal top hats and stopped paying attention to the experts they paid for.


I wonder if there is a market for something like a fathead type wallposter? Those are more durable and could be skinned on the laptop or the wall - many applications.




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I like the comic and think that Ninja has it right. An ebook could possibly generate a lot of revenue.


Congrats on the 10K / champion level. I can't wait to see how fast you'll pass me!


Thanks - not very many in that group. I don't think it will be anytime soon based on workload I see coming down the pipe.


Ya but I don't post anymore. I think I got like 3000 points in the 2+ years since I jumped ahead of Steve for the first 1 ever to 10K posts... I used to do that in 2-3 months when I was realllllly active here.


Give me a few years and I may join that club of people who have had more posts than steve - for now, I am nowhere close.




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Not to be a wet blanket, but I'm going to be a wet blanket.

The one thing no one in this discussion has considered is the licensing and rights issue. Who actually owns Raw Materials?

As a writer myself, I promise you that just because Larry was paid for the comic does NOT mean he signed over his rights. Then again, he may have. The contract between Larry and SCC (or RedGate or whomever) might actually not allow for e-books, posters, etc.

While it's great to make suggestions about this sort of thing, you can throw out numbers all day without them being remotely realistic. You're assuming a volume of purchases that you can't substantiate with previous data. As a writer, I know how it works. You get X number of people promising to purchase a product, but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, nada happens. Nothing sells. And there's a whole complicated legal wrangle to go through before you get to that point.

I think that these possibilities should definitely be explored. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if they're not acted upon because of all the work and money that would have to be expended first. Especially if the ONLY reason Raw Materials was contracted was to get more users to SCC.com and not to actually make money off it.


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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:25 AM


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CirquedeSQLeil (9/16/2010)
I like the comic and think that Ninja has it right. An ebook could possibly generate a lot of revenue.


Congrats on the 10K / champion level. I can't wait to see how fast you'll pass me!


Thanks - not very many in that group. I don't think it will be anytime soon based on workload I see coming down the pipe.


Ya but I don't post anymore. I think I got like 3000 points in the 2+ years since I jumped ahead of Steve for the first 1 ever to 10K posts... I used to do that in 2-3 months when I was realllllly active here.


Give me a few years and I may join that club of people who have had more posts than steve - for now, I am nowhere close.


You'd need to bump up to 1K post a month average to reach him within 2 years... his full time job is to post here. That's why it's unlikely that he'll ever be passed as long has his job description doesn't change.

So that would make me the only one to ever reach that "goal" after 2005.
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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM


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Ninja's_RGR'us (9/16/2010)
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I like the comic and think that Ninja has it right. An ebook could possibly generate a lot of revenue.


Congrats on the 10K / champion level. I can't wait to see how fast you'll pass me!


Thanks - not very many in that group. I don't think it will be anytime soon based on workload I see coming down the pipe.


Ya but I don't post anymore. I think I got like 3000 points in the 2+ years since I jumped ahead of Steve for the first 1 ever to 10K posts... I used to do that in 2-3 months when I was realllllly active here.


Give me a few years and I may join that club of people who have had more posts than steve - for now, I am nowhere close.


You'd need to bump up to 1K post a month average to reach him within 2 years... his full time job is to post here. That's why it's unlikely that he'll ever be passed as long has his job description doesn't change.

So that would make me the only one to ever reach that "goal" after 2005.


Uh yeah - ain't happening




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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM


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Brandie Tarvin (9/16/2010)
Not to be a wet blanket, but I'm going to be a wet blanket.

The one thing no one in this discussion has considered is the licensing and rights issue. Who actually owns Raw Materials?

As a writer myself, I promise you that just because Larry was paid for the comic does NOT mean he signed over his rights. Then again, he may have. The contract between Larry and SCC (or RedGate or whomever) might actually not allow for e-books, posters, etc.

While it's great to make suggestions about this sort of thing, you can throw out numbers all day without them being remotely realistic. You're assuming a volume of purchases that you can't substantiate with previous data. As a writer, I know how it works. You get X number of people promising to purchase a product, but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, nada happens. Nothing sells. And there's a whole complicated legal wrangle to go through before you get to that point.

I think that these possibilities should definitely be explored. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if they're not acted upon because of all the work and money that would have to be expended first. Especially if the ONLY reason Raw Materials was contracted was to get more users to SCC.com and not to actually make money off it.



Thanks for the valuable info. Actually the "normal" ssc contract is exclusivity for 90-180 days (that was in my contract when I was working for RG on something that never saw the light of day). So that means the "normal" writer keeps the right and can republish.

Again it may mean nada since we'll never know the actual contract between Larry and Red Gate.
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