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Posted Monday, August 16, 2010 11:56 AM
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I have had a few jobs very similar to the one you write about. They are all a part of my experience and contribute to my current skill set. They were definitely worth doing the time...for a while...to get a broad perspective and learn about some far flung things I might not have learned otherwise.
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Andy Warren (8/16/2010)
Good thoughts, and I've thought the same about bad/weak managers, you get chances to do things that you might not with a stronger and more capable manager. Still, it's easy to fall into a rut and stay past the point when you should have left. The trick - with no easy answer - is figuring out when that time is!


I like that you bring up the bad/weak manager topic and also the topic of knowing when to leave. Though bad jobs can be good for the career, they can be extremely detrimental to the esteem as well as the career if you don't figure out the right time to leave.

With a bad/weak manager you could be belittled on a daily basis in private or public. You could also be expected to accomplish things that have never been communicated or communicated entirely differently (I know that can happen despite the manager) and then be subject to the belittlement.

Granted, even with bad managers there is plenty to learn. For some, a bad manager means you learn how to manage and do the job for the bad manager. This can also teach one how to deal with adversity and work well under pressure. However, it is essential to keep your self aware of the situation and prepared to leave at the appropriate moment. Bad employers deserve as much loyalty from the employee as they give.




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Posted Monday, August 16, 2010 1:28 PM


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Nice stuff Tim - oh, and good to see you at SQL Saturday 28 in Baton Rouge this w/e!!

Another thing I have found to be important and telling about an individual is how you behave and handle LEAVE(ing) one job when transitioning.


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Just what I needed to read!
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On the flip side of all this, people make a huge difference either way. A great job can suddenly become a major PITA based on a change in someone's attitude.

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Jeff Moden (8/29/2010)
On the flip side of all this, people make a huge difference either way. A great job can suddenly become a major PITA based on a change in someone's attitude.


I could not agree more Jeff! 98% of job satisfaction on any job is the people you work with and for. If you work for a jerk, it will negate everything else regardless of how much money, challenge, or benefits you get on the job. When I interview for a job it's the number one thing I concentrate on, If I detect the person I am going to work for is arrogant, self-serving, or generally a pompous a**, I will drop consideration on that job immediately, regardless of the offer they make to me. The job of DBA is stressful enough as it is without having to deal with a 14 carat gold a-hole daily on top of it.


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I'd agree as well. I search for fit first, technical experience/challenge next. Not that technical skills aren't important, but I think that the people are more important.






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