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Posted Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:39 PM


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Posted Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:44 PM


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I think volunteering is an excellent way to spend your time. Elections and Politics are a different Ball of wax. I would almost say that being on the Board is too high profile and thus makes it difficult to volunteer and serve others in Anonymity. I prefer anonymity - but then again I do spend a good amount of time in the forums.



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Posted Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:28 AM
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I thought it was a well-written motivational editorial, clearly explaining the costs and benefits.

However, Steve forgot to tell us what PASS is. What is it?
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Steve, I'd love to run, really. Not because I have some great ideas for where to take the organization but because I'm willing to get in there & work. However, I'm already committed to helping run a Troop of Boy Scouts. Right now, that's where my "free" time (ha!) is going. As much as I love the SQL community and feel strongly about the role PASS can and should play within it, I just don't have the time it would need for me to do it justice. So I'd rather not do the job at all than do it badly or half-assed. In a few more years, that's all going to change (the kids are getting older, quick). At that time, I'll be looking for bigger challenges.

But you are right. We need people to step up and do the hard work of keeping this organization on its feet and moving forward. There just don't seem to be enough around. What's more, everyone seems to have similar excuses. They're the same excuses I hear from parents when I'm trying to get them to help the Troop "I just don't have the time." For most people, I'm fairly certain that's BS. but when you look around at the people you'd like to see running PASS, they're running a local user group, organizing SQL Saturday's, working on this or that PASS committee, and, oh, by the way, working full time at some job and raising a family and maybe even occasionally relaxing.

The fact is, the best people are probably over-committed already. We need to convince them to let something go, stop running the user group, don't work on new books for the next couple of years... whatever. That's probably going to be a hard thing to do. But it's where our efforts need to be focused. My 1.5 cents anyway.


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I'd love to find a smaller way to help out with PASS first.

Right now, I just don't have the time to commit to doing anything large in scale. In a couple of months, I will have much more free time to help out with spending more time in the forums, the virtual pass chapters and really working more on my blog.

I say a couple of months because then I'll be living closer to work (30 minute commute instead of 90 minutes each way) and I'm getting married in about a month.

The SQL community is really an inspiring group of individuals and I count myself lucky to be a part of it.

I look forward to becoming more involved in our community.

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Unfortunately with the economy and my expanding family I can't even make the commitment to attend the Summit, let alone volunteer for a position that requires travel, etc....and my company doesn't believe in professional development (can't figure out that no, they aren't just throwing money in a big black hole in the ground)

Sigh.
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Conan The Canadian (6/10/2010)
I'd love to find a smaller way to help out with PASS first.

Right now, I just don't have the time to commit to doing anything large in scale. In a couple of months, I will have much more free time to help out with spending more time in the forums, the virtual pass chapters and really working more on my blog.

I say a couple of months because then I'll be living closer to work (30 minute commute instead of 90 minutes each way) and I'm getting married in about a month.

The SQL community is really an inspiring group of individuals and I count myself lucky to be a part of it.

I look forward to becoming more involved in our community.

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Go to the web site, www.sqlpass.org. There are a ton of volunteer opportunities. One area that always needs help, although right now is their busy time, so you might not hear from them, is the program committee. They're going through all the submissions to put together the program. But there are others. All the virtual groups need help. Click around. You'll find what you're looking for.


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PASS really doesn't do much for me and I can't even attend the conference. If I'm going to volunteer, I'd rather help out with the local User Group, NTSSUG, which is awesome.
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PASS really doesn't do much for me and I can't even attend the conference. If I'm going to volunteer, I'd rather help out with the local User Group, NTSSUG, which is awesome.


Is your local UG PASS affiliated? Helping out locally is a great way to help PASS overall.




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Grant Fritchey (6/10/2010)
Steve, I'd love to run, really. Not because I have some great ideas for where to take the organization but because I'm willing to get in there & work. However, I'm already committed to helping run a Troop of Boy Scouts. Right now, that's where my "free" time (ha!) is going. As much as I love the SQL community and feel strongly about the role PASS can and should play within it, I just don't have the time it would need for me to do it justice. So I'd rather not do the job at all than do it badly or half-assed. In a few more years, that's all going to change (the kids are getting older, quick). At that time, I'll be looking for bigger challenges.

I think BSA is a good place to spend your time. Teaching the youth as a volunteer is an extremely worthwhile activity / time commitment.


But you are right. We need people to step up and do the hard work of keeping this organization on its feet and moving forward. There just don't seem to be enough around. What's more, everyone seems to have similar excuses. They're the same excuses I hear from parents when I'm trying to get them to help the Troop "I just don't have the time." For most people, I'm fairly certain that's BS. but when you look around at the people you'd like to see running PASS, they're running a local user group, organizing SQL Saturday's, working on this or that PASS committee, and, oh, by the way, working full time at some job and raising a family and maybe even occasionally relaxing.

I couldn't disagree with this. I have seen the same kind of excuses from parents with boys in Scouts - until it is a really cool thing that we are doing (eg whitewater rafting).

The fact is, the best people are probably over-committed already. We need to convince them to let something go, stop running the user group...

Tough call here. The local groups need to be built up so they can help build the overall organization. Take out the support stake of the leadership in a group and some of them could crumble.




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