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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:15 PM
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John Magnabosco
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 4:02 AM
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Great post, Steve. Leadership comes in many forms and does not require position to be exercised. John Maxwell is an author who writes on this topic often. I recommend his book "The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership".
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Dave Schutz
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 6:34 AM
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Steve,
In the military I learned the difference between managers and leaders. Managers manage resources: hardware, paper, etc. They don't necessarily lead. Leaders give vision and direction to the group. Leaders look to the future and direct where the group is going. Most managers are happy to sit back and handle daily routine without worrying about the future.
It's easy to be a manager; more difficult to put yourself out front and lead.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 6:41 AM
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David,
You are correct. I think it's much harder to lead, and since the bar is set so low for managers, they tend to follow that path.
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Bill Nicolich
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 7:08 AM
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Manager vs. leader - that's a useful comparison.
In a strong economy with commerce-friendly markets like what's often the case in America, perhaps adequate management and marginal leadership is enough.
I took a course on the economic history of America where we asked why America grew to become an economic powerhouse. Marginal worker productivity wasn't any greater than England. The answer was the sheer size of the market (tied together with a unified currency and banking system, with commerce-friendly policies) made the difference. We've got an environment where it's relatively easy to thrive in business. So, we don't have to be as good at management or leadership to thrive.
I've seen a case where an American business was bought by a group from Germany - and the Germans were able to immediately manage the business better and produce more revenue/reduce costs. They may or may not have provided better leadership. I suspect the environment in Germany is such that German companies must manage their businesses well in order to survive - and so those practices are put in place.
On the other hand, I've worked for companies here in America where the management was adequate, but definitely not optimal, and the businesses did alright.
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 8:06 AM
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I was expecting this poster:
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I think the leadership that you see out of the folks in the Armed Forces has to do with their training. They are forced to operate under stress while in the service, and by doing so become sure of their capabilities. Once they're in the business world, the comparable risk is laughable. They know that they can succeed, and therefore they do, and inspire others, which as has been mentioned, creates a leader out of them.
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Posted Monday, May 03, 2010 9:20 AM
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Great leaders always communicate well. One of the biggest problems I see in IT shops is lack of communication. When you got one or two people in an organization that have alot of knowledge and they don't communicate it to others for whatever reasons, the whole department suffers. The left hand needs to know what the right hand is doing for a department to work well. Great leaders recognize this. I agree that leaders give vision and direction to the group, but you can't do any of that without good communication first.
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Lynn Pettis
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jcrawf02 (5/3/2010)
I was expecting this poster:
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I think the leadership that you see out of the folks in the Armed Forces has to do with their training. They are forced to operate under stress while in the service, and by doing so become sure of their capabilities. Once they're in the business world, the comparable risk is laughable. They know that they can succeed, and therefore they do, and inspire others, which as has been mentioned, creates a leader out of them.
Too bad this isn't always the case with former/retired military personnel.
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To use the old joke as an example
The Leader wants to know where we are going, but the manager does not care as long as we make good time.
And said another way,
You see the back of the leader as they head out to where you are going, you always see the front of the manager telling you where you should be going.
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Dave Schutz (5/3/2010)
Steve,
It's easy to be a manager; more difficult to put yourself out front and lead.
I agree with that. I also think another good comparison is that a leader is not a "yes" man. Leaders sometimes need to be that squeaky wheel.
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