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Posted Thursday, December 3, 2009 8:15 PM


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Posted Thursday, December 3, 2009 10:42 PM
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I found it rather distasteful and degrading to title this article like this. I spent weeks to earn a certificate, accumulated years of experience working as SQL Server DBA (from 6.5 to 2008). Following the instructions this guide is providing I would not trust the SQL Server Compact addition to be administered by the candidates getting their SQL Server DBA training this way.
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Posted Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:56 PM


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Um, nothing in the title or the article implies that it takes 60-Seconds to become a DBA, and the the content of the article obviously argues the opposite. The title is an allusion to the brevity of the article itself wherein it only takes a minute to read and understand the outline of this program to become a DBA.

As for your distrust of anyone following this guide, I think that is both irrational and unfounded as it is essentially the path that I followed, and I am fairly sure that many other top SQL Server folks here have also followed a similar path.

Further I am fairly confident that most folks following this path conscientiously and diligently would be among the best DBAs and SQL Developers. If you think that there is a better program accessible to our readers then please feel free to present it.


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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 12:00 AM


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Julien.Chappel (12/3/2009)
...I would not trust the SQL Server Compact addition to be administered...


And frankly, this makes no sense at all, who said any thing about Compact Edition and what relevance does it have to this discussion?


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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 12:21 AM


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Yowch! Tough crowd!

I agree... I don't see anything in the title or the text that suggests you can become a DBA in 60 seconds (although it did catch my attention ). Nor do I see anything that belittles anyone's fine efforts or experience of becoming a DBA whether by accident or by plan.

What I do see is 5 excellent starter steps towards becoming a DBA. If folks take the time to read them, they represent a substantial investment in time, effort, and maybe even money (for the certs/tests). Barry is also correct in another area... I can't speak for anyone else but I recommend similar (if not identical) steps to many on this forum because I've personally followed most of those steps. I'm actually pretty happy that Barry turned these into an article so that I can stop typing them as a recommendation over and over and over...

Nicely done, Barry. I hope people take the time to read these the right way.


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...I would not trust the SQL Server Compact addition to be administered...


And frankly, this makes no sense at all, who said any thing about Compact Edition and what relevance does it have to this discussion?


I believe he meant that he wouldn't trust even the simplest form of SQL Server to someone who didn't learn the ropes correctly. I hope people understand that the steps in your article are the steps one should take to start learning "the ropes" correctly.


--Jeff Moden
"RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "Row-By-Agonizing-Row".

First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."

(play on words) "Just because you CAN do something in T-SQL, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T." --22 Aug 2013

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How to post performance problems
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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 2:02 AM


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just study through them and learn the answers

well... i can't agree this one.
study through them, yes, learn throught them also, understanding, learning mechanisms is right.
Learning answers and become a parrot... what a disappointing speech.



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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 3:38 AM
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I'd have to agree with this too. I thought it spoiled what was actually not a bad and reasonably informative article. I think as well, if you're suggesting using the Microsoft study guides then you might put more details about them in the post - or at least a link to them?
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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 3:40 AM
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I've been struggling to learn the ropes as a DBA for nearly a year now and a simple quick intro like this would have been useful to me when I started.

Of course you should also set www.sqlservercentral.com as you home page!

Thanks, John
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Posted Friday, December 4, 2009 5:00 AM
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just study through them and learn the answers

well... i can't agree this one.
study through them, yes, learn throught them also, understanding, learning mechanisms is right.
Learning answers and become a parrot... what a disappointing speech.


I don't for a second believe that Barry meant learning by rote here.
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