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G33kKahuna (12/2/2009)
G33kKahuna - Is it your position that server side trace information offers no value in troubleshooting performance issues? What “fantasy world” are you living in?
Tommy, Which part of my response said server side trace is bad? infact the wait types I mentioned can be captured only on the server side ... Sounds like you are suggesting that avg read, write and cpu are the only server side performance indicators .... looks like you got a lot to catchup on SQL Server performance tuning bud ...  Look up Andew Kelly, Paul Randel, Jimmy May and Linchi Shea articles JacekO, I would have calibrated SQL Wait & Waiting stats for autogrows but you seem to prefer your approach ... fair enough and peace.
G33kKahuna - We are talking in circles...I merely supported the analysis of server side trace data as a tool to troubleshoot performance issues; not the end all be all. Your arrogance is unbecoming. Perhaps we should take this offline.
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Your arrogance is unbecoming. Perhaps we should take this offline
Jacek's article was debate worthy. I believe he and I don't see eye to eye on the evaluation approach .... he did clarify his position as well.
You jumped in the middle from nowhere with a pitbull attitude. You lacked skills to support your own argument or counter mine, not to mention lack of comprehension. Like I said before you offered, I would be more than happy to debate you offline but after your response from yesterday; it would be a waste of time .... cheers
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G33kKahuna (12/3/2009)
Your arrogance is unbecoming. Perhaps we should take this offline Jacek's article was debate worthy. I believe he and I don't see eye to eye on the evaluation approach .... he did clarify his position as well. You jumped in the middle from nowhere with a pitbull attitude. You lacked skills to support your own argument or counter mine, not to mention lack of comprehension. Like I said before you offered, I would be more than happy to debate you offline but after your response from yesterday; it would be a waste of time .... cheers
That was not my intention and if I insulted you in anyway, please accept my apologies. I found the article insightful and was merely trying to support the author for his contribution. Feel free to PM me offline.
Updated this post to include an example; using the information below we were able to hone in on Procedure_C; closer inspection of the execution plan in the server side trace revealed a missing index; i.e.
Object Name # of Executions Avg_Reads Avg_Writes Avg_CPU Avg_Duration Max_Duration Procedure_A 3002 6830 0 234 1 3 Procedure_B 2925 882 0 26 0 3 Procedure_C 1835 10201 0 246 2 51
Object Name < 1 1 - 2 Seconds 3 - 5 Seconds 5 + Seconds Procedure_B 2234 512 134 0 Procedure_A 2285 510 118 0 Procedure_C 1032 418 235 150
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