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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Posted Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:01 PM


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Always a hot topic, training and knowledge to advance you career. is it worth it, probably if you are full time employee. If you have a career ladder you can climb, then it will help without question.

As a contractor/freelancer/consultant, no i dont think so. having a masters degree doesnt really help. training courses give you knowedge but no client will employ you to build a datawarehouse, if your only experience was a course on datawarehousing. some clients mention that they want certification which I dont have, but I am still interviewed for those positions.

So I think there is a point for keeping your knowledge current and trying to get ahead but how you achieve it, is an individual thing.

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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 3:03 AM
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I don't have any academic qualifications worth a spit, but I *do* spend a lot of time (and money) improving and increasing my skills...and I'm trusted by my employers to service all their data requirements and (hopefully) I justify their trust in me. In my opinon, training yourself and investing time and effort in furthering your knowledge is essential. Being able to 'get into the trenches' and do the work at hand is way more important than any number of pieces of paper.

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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 3:17 AM
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I have never had an employer pay for training, its all been done in my own time and at my own expense. However, I am feeling a bit disillusioned, as I never seem to be able to get myself in a good position where I can use the extra certs I get to place myself into the post I most desire, and totally enjoy what I do. I am always missing something people want, I train up, then its something else and now I feel as though its a constant up hill struggle and I'm not getting the results I'm after.

Not wishing to end on a negative note, I will say that despite not being where I (ideally) want to be, keeping trained up has so far put me in a position to pay the bills and put some money away for lifes little emergencies so for that I am very grateful.

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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 3:50 AM


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Certainly, I take care to ensure my employability and commercial utility at least remain the same, if not increase. Sometimes that takes the form of formal training, sometimes not. However, it's all investment in myself in one form or another.

I happen to be lucky that when it comes to formal training, my current employer pays and the training takes place during work hours. However, in doing so, they comfortably realise their return on investment. It is a fairly well known phenomenon in Human Resources Management that people will tend to vary their productivity to an extent to match their perception of how well they're being rewarded (cut someone's salary and their faff time will increase, but give them a raise and they'll put in more effort to try to justify the new wage), and I know I'm getting a good deal.

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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 4:30 AM


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I think training is important and especially with us working in technology that changes everyday we have to stay on top. Unfortunately my employer does not send me on training and pay for it so my school is the internet and on the go learning is in the order of the day. Sometimes it is frustrating 'cause other people know more than you but sometimes those with training come ask me for help. I learn the hard way and what I learn stick like valcro.

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I'm totally in favour of investing in my career. Part of my job is development and support of an SQL Server based utilities billing system.

However, this morning my I travelled to Birmingham (UK) (about and hour on the train), to attend a course to help with the general IT support part of my job. The title of the course was "Effective Communication".

When I arrived at the training company I was greeted with some surprise. It turns out the course is cancelled and they hadn't let us know (even though we checked earlier this week).

I hope they can see the irony, and will understand why we won't be using them again!
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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 4:41 AM


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Imagine this.. You work in a medium sized company, using MSSQL2005 and nothing else.
They are very tight on budget, try to be productive, focused and specialised, unlike government orgs and banks where there's a great variety of things.
You would like to learn COgnos and TM1. THere is no bloody way this company would pay for it. But it is not a secret that if you have MSSQL expertise and Cognos and TM1 you open youself to another several thousand cool jobs.

So what do we do? blindly pay and go for a course? Or download a cracked/evaluation version and learn ourselves for free but with no paper given in the end of the learning?

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Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 4:57 AM


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Education is very important and I too, am fortunate to work for a company who supports it. We get $10,000 per year for tuition reimbursement on top of any money set aside in the budget for summits, conferences, seminars, etc. But for the most part, I am so bogged down with so many projects, my main problem is trying to find the time to attend these. So for the most part, I will grab a book and train myself in my off time.
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VALEK (10/9/2009)
Imagine this.. You work in a medium sized company, using MSSQL2005 and nothing else.
They are very tight on budget, try to be productive, focused and specialised, unlike government orgs and banks where there's a great variety of things.
You would like to learn COgnos and TM1. THere is no bloody way this company would pay for it. But it is not a secret that if you have MSSQL expertise and Cognos and TM1 you open youself to another several thousand cool jobs.

So what do we do? blindly pay and go for a course? Or download a cracked/evaluation version and learn ourselves for free but with no paper given in the end of the learning?



I think your view on banks is misguided, having just previously worked for one of the biggest investment banks in america if not globally. we were very restricted in what we had access to, technology wise. I can say that working for banks does not expand your skill set very much if anything it restricts. all knowledge is helpful, but how you apply that knowledge is key.

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