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SQLRNNR

Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:09 AM

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I have moved all user tables and indexes out of the primary filegroup. I have verified that only system objects reside in that filegroup.

The primary filegroup is still 11+ GB used with 8GB free (19GB total size).

Question: How can i find out what is consuming 11GB (since nothing besides system objects reside there)?
My query to find objects and indexes per filegroup:

select 'table_name'=object_name(i.id) ,i.indid
,'index_name'=i.name ,i.groupid
,'filegroup'=f.name ,'file_name'=d.physical_name
,'dataspace'=s.name from sys.sysindexes i
,sys.filegroups f ,sys.database_files d
,sys.data_spaces s
where f.data_space_id = i.groupid
-- and objectproperty(i.id,'IsUserTable') = 1
and f.data_space_id = d.data_space_id
and f.data_space_id = s.data_space_id
-- and i.indid = 1
and s.name = 'Primary'
order by object_name(i.id),f.name,groupid
go

Script to find Filegroup Size
CREATE TABLE #FileDetails (
FileId int , FileGroupId int , TotalExtents int , UsedExtents int ,
"Name" nvarchar( 128 ) , "FileName" nvarchar( 500 ) ,
TotalSize AS ( ( TotalExtents * 64.0 ) / 1024 ) ,
UsedSize AS ( ( UsedExtents * 64.0 ) / 1024 )
)
--Data File Details
INSERT INTO #FileDetails (
FileId , FileGroupId , TotalExtents , UsedExtents , "Name" , "Filename"
)
EXECUTE( 'dbcc showfilestats with tableresults' )
SELECT FILEGROUP_NAME( FileGroupID ) AS FileGroupName ,
FileId ,
"Name" ,
"FileName" ,
(CONVERT(decimal(38,2),TotalSize)) AS FileSizeMB ,
(CONVERT(decimal(38,2),UsedSize)) AS CurrentSizeMB ,
(CONVERT(decimal(38,2),((UsedExtents*1.)/TotalExtents)*100)) AS "%Usage"
FROM #FileDetails

DROP TABLE #FileDetails

I have also defragged all indexes and updated stats (that gave me back about 1GB).

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Lynn Pettis

Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:20 AM

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At this point I'd say shrink the Primary file group. If all you have there now are system objects, no user objects, you can reclaim the unused space.

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:29 AM

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shrinking only brings me back to the 11GB though. Total size of the filegroup is 19GB and all it will let me reclaim is the 8GB free space.

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:32 AM

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I would like to get this filegroup down to a reasonable size (500MB seems very large but is what I was able to get my Dev and QA environments down under quite easily).

I just see no valid reason at this point for the size of the primary group to be so big.

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:34 AM

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Make sure you are doing the shrink the correct way, and that you really have free space in the files. The script on the link below will tell you how much free space you have in each file, and do an incremental shrink.

Shrink DB File by Increment to Target Free Space
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80355

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:51 AM

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Thanks for the script suggestion. I like the proposed script and concept.

Shrinking the file is of lesser concern to me right now.

The heart of the matter seems to be finding out what is inside that filegroup that I can't seem to locate that is chewing up all of that space.

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Michael Valentine Jones

Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:20 PM

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Did you run the script to see how much space is actually used in each datafile? What were the results?

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:54 PM

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After shrinking the primary filegroup (1 file in it), I have no free space. It is currently sitting at 11583 total size and 11572 Used (the used is still increasing with each refresh of the script).

Primary Filegroup is no longer the default, I created a new filegroup to take over for that in the event some table gets created without my knowledge - I don't want it in the primary filegroup.

That said, the fact that the file usage continues to grow in Size also concerns me.

Thanks for the help.

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Lynn Pettis

Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:00 PM

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jason brimhall (7/1/2009)

Why does it concern you? You may have moved all the user database objects out of the Primary filegroup, but that is where the system database objects reside, and they grow as well as there is activity on those objects, it should be expected. Having removed the user database objects, however, it shouldn't experience as much growth.

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Posted Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:16 PM

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I finally pinned it down.

Thanks to the following articles
http://blogs.msdn.com/duncand/archive/2007/01/27/datadude-and-the-text-filegroup.aspx
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/jeffrey_yao/archive/2009/01/16/list-objects-in-a-filegroup-in-sql-server-2005.aspx

I have several of these still in the primary filegroup.

Working on a solution now to get the LOB Columns moved to a different filegroup

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