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Some people bake their own cakes and have full control of all the ingredients and steps involved. Others don't have the time or skillset so they go to a bakery and buy a cake. Someone at the bakery could poison the cake. It's a risk. It's small, but it could kill you if you are wrong. Same goes for restaurant meals. But most people buy cakes and eat at restaurants.
Some people rebuild their own car engines. This way they know its done "right" and it can also save them money. Others don't have the time or skillset so they take the car to a mechanic. They may rip you off, or do a lousy job. It's a risk. But most people take their cars to mechanics.
Same goes for all the discussion about the cloud. There are risks. I'm not at all saying the risks are not there or that they couldn't hurt you if they materialize. But I do think there are ways to deal with those risks. But yeah, they are still risks. And there's a different set of risks to trying to keep it all in-house.
Ha... isn't life grand? Seems we just can't seem to get away from risk.
Personally I think the biggest cloud risks have to do with having your company data as part of some now-big-and-juicy target for hackers or terrorists, rather than keeping your company data to yourself in relative anonymity. Can the cloud companies protect your data better than you can? Maybe yes, maybe no. And what are the consequences if they can't? Or if you can't?
Although not entirely cloud-specific, what about the telecom and undersea cables, which the Somali pirates now say they are going to try to attack. The challenge is to figure out your own company's risks, your tolerance for it, and your risk mitigation strategy.
Hey, if this stuff was easy, we all wouldn't be paid the big bucks! 
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Steve Jones - Editor (4/16/2009)
Gus has a great point. You can't expect anyone else to challenge a legal issue for you.
However if you want to challenge it, what's the likelihood that your DBA will stand up to the challenge if he/she is confronted?
I don't think the DBA would, nor should, unless they have ownership or exec-level management responsibility. I think the issue is rather having the chance to pass it through your local legal and PR representation before rolling over. If you have no control of the hardware, then you don't have that choice unless the 3rd-party provider chooses and/or is allowed to notify you.
There are times when a legal challenge can and should be countered. Due legal process has as much politics in it as anything else.
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Steve Jones - Editor (4/16/2009)
Gus has a great point. You can't expect anyone else to challenge a legal issue for you.
However if you want to challenge it, what's the likelihood that your DBA will stand up to the challenge if he/she is confronted?
Such things don't usually go straight to the DBA. They go to the officers of the company.
- GSquared
"Nobody knows the age of the human race, but everyone agrees it's old enough to know better." - Anon
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They usually do go to the company, I'd agree with that. My point is that if management refuses, someone might show up at the office with papers asking for data. I doubt a DBA there would do anything.
Don't forget that contracts can always be changed. I've had hosting contracts with language that said any legal issues require notification of the company before any action by the hosting company.
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Steve Jones - Editor (4/18/2009)
They usually do go to the company, I'd agree with that. My point is that if management refuses, someone might show up at the office with papers asking for data. I doubt a DBA there would do anything.
Don't forget that contracts can always be changed. I've had hosting contracts with language that said any legal issues require notification of the company before any action by the hosting company.
That would and should be a standard if this idea is to really progress. But even that process can be over-ridden.
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SSChampion
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There is definitely a lot of work to do to standardize things. Right now it reminds me of the web in 94/95. It's a little crazy out there.
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SSC Eights!
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Bob Abernethy (4/16/2009)
Hey, if this stuff was easy, we all wouldn't be paid the big bucks!
In a parallel dimension very much like this one. 
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Regards,
Wayne West
The Cheap DBA and the Arizona SQL Server User Group
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