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Posted Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:59 AM
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chrisn-585491 (10/15/2013)
Every time a read another on of these editorials on this subject, I start hearing:

"Pimping the cloud, Pimping the cloud"

to the tune of Judas Priest's "Breaking the Law".



What will it take to get you into a cloud today?

You know you want to participate in this limited time offer to become one of the true leaders in the IT profession in our area, so what will it take to get you to move off the old beaten up technology and into this great brand new shiny wave of the future? If you will participate in this onetime offer, never to be seen at this price again, imagine what your friends and family will think as you become a person of destiny? For just a pittance you can become a pioneer on the cutting edge of technology....



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Posted Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:39 PM
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Lets suppose you are launching a new line of business. It's a bit of a punt. You hope it will be wildly successful but equally it might not.

Do you invest in new hardware, licencing, resilience and failover capability for everything needed to operate this new line of business?

Perhaps you should spin it up in the cloud, determine what the demand is. Run it long enough so that the natural ebbs and flows of business are determined and you have genuine sizing and capacity metrics then bring it back in house.


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Posted Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:36 PM


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David.Poole (10/15/2013)
Lets suppose you are launching a new line of business. It's a bit of a punt. You hope it will be wildly successful but equally it might not.

Do you invest in new hardware, licencing, resilience and failover capability for everything needed to operate this new line of business?

Perhaps you should spin it up in the cloud, determine what the demand is. Run it long enough so that the natural ebbs and flows of business are determined and you have genuine sizing and capacity metrics then bring it back in house.

Where I work, we punt new databases occasionally, often times working from draft requirements and not knowing what the eventual scope and user base will be. Most of the time these would be a staging databases for injesting some new file format from a client or a datamart for a new executive reporting request. Right now, this type of database would get initially deployed on either a new virtual server instance or perhaps the database would be contained alongside another somewhat related database on an under-utilized physical instance. After a few months it would get scrapped or shuffled into a more permanent location. These arn't typically transactional database with an application front end, they're bulk loaded, heavily crunched on, and accumulate at least several GB of data per month. Also, they would typically contain PHI. So, a 3rd party cloud hosted database solution wouldn't be a good fit.
However, at some point in the future the organization could decide to host it's own cloud based database farm to serve all of the global offices. That could feasibly happen. But that would also be a lot of infrastructure and architecture investment.
It's good that SQL Server now has a cutting edge cloud based deployment option and services, but at this point it's not a paradigm shift. Just like NoSQL, it meets the demands of those with a niche need.
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dmbaker (10/15/2013)

My comments were aimed at two salacious points:


Did you mean "salient?" I suppose salacious would work, but it gives your post a whole different meaning.


BWAAA-HAAA!!!! With the way I feel about "the cloud", I think that the word "salacious" might just be the perfect word in this case.

And, IMHO, the "2 year" thing didn't work out so well.


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"RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "Row-By-Agonizing-Row".

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Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."

(play on words) "Just because you CAN do something in T-SQL, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T." --22 Aug 2013

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Posted Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:33 AM
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In the end what is the cloud? inernal clouds may have an advantage in consolidating hardware costs etc but the public cloud is just the latest incarnation in the hosted service /Bureau computing model - and if that model didn't suit your business in the past why would it do so now?
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