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Posted Friday, December 26, 2008 7:08 PM


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Since the vulnerability is fixed in SP 3 for SQL 2005, and since that's available now, I don't know that I'd panic about this one. It is a long time to leave it unfixed, but I hate to second-guess people on that kind of thing.

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Heh... well, what's the matter? Didn't they follow the "time to market" and the "splash for the cash" paradigm that everyone seems to preach... instead of writing quality code that shares a concern for the customer at large?

They just did what I've been preaching against and that most of you (sorry Steve, you're included) seem to embrace when your ill-informed boss says "meet the schedule or die". No hair...


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I do think they ought to adhere to a schedule, but not at the expense of bad code. And this is a management issue, not a coder issue. I think MS as a whole is making a mistake here, not getting patches out.






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I do think they ought to adhere to a schedule, but not at the expense of bad code.


FINALLY! That's exactly what I've been saying for the last 30 years!


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Posted Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:21 PM


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Glad we agree on something :)

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Heh... Happy New Year to you and your's, Steve!

Man... keep up the awesome work on SSC... I went a visited more than a dozen other sites just to see "what up", and they just don't hold a candle to what you've done on SSC. Some of the sites haven't had a question asked or answered since Sep 2008 or before.


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The biggest problem, in my opinion, with Microsoft, (and probably a fair number of other large companies), is a lack of openness and information about important things that us users want to know.

What they should've said, is that they're planning an update but it's been delayed and then provided a reasonable explanation.

After all, when someone tells you that something they're working on, is taking longer than expected because of *something*, your response will almost certainly be along the lines of "ok, let me know when you've finished", instead of tearing them apart for the delay.


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Paul, I tend to agree with that. MS is open in some ways, but very closed in others.

Let us know there's something in the works. In this case, I'm not sure why a workaround wasn't disclosed in April. Information would help slow down the ping ponging people get from getting too upset about a lack of information and then upset about too much information.

Some of that won't go away as people like to complain. And reporters need something to write about.







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