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Posted Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:49 AM


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It is knowledge either way. And there is value in communicating what you would do, that doesn't mean you need to display it by fixing their problems for free. If they'll take advantage of you in the interview, they'll take advantage of you as an employee or as a contractor. You're interviewing them at the same time they're interviewing you. If you don't use that, you'll end up in a miserable situation.


And it's completely different if they ask you to solve a real life problem that they had in the past but have already solved. It stops being free consulting to become a challenge to test knowledge but most of all, to find out how would you solve real life problems instead of a fizzbuzz test.


Agreed, it isn't the style of question or the difficulty, it is the misrepresentation that bothers me.


I agree as well. Ask challenging questions. I don't mind a few questions of stump the chump (that is transparently obvious too) as long as the move along. I will placate them for a bit. But when they continue to misrepresent, it's time to get out.




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I remember seeing a CV where someone had rated himself 10/10 on 4 versions of Windows (XP, 2000, 98, NT4), two versions of SQL Server (2000, 2005) and a version of Oracle (forget which). He had 3 years work experience and a year studying for an IT diploma. I begged my teamlead to allow an interview, just so I could see exactly what this guy did know. He refused :-(


Too bad. It is probably good that you didn't make that poor guy cry so early into his career though.


He wouldn't have cried, he would have just walked away thinking he was still 10/10 and the interviewer had no clue. 1 yr experience seems pretty arrogant to think he is 10/10 and I don't think that arrogance would have been altered by a grueling interview from Gail.




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I remember seeing a CV where someone had rated himself 10/10 on 4 versions of Windows (XP, 2000, 98, NT4), two versions of SQL Server (2000, 2005) and a version of Oracle (forget which). He had 3 years work experience and a year studying for an IT diploma. I begged my teamlead to allow an interview, just so I could see exactly what this guy did know. He refused :-(


Too bad. It is probably good that you didn't make that poor guy cry so early into his career though.


He wouldn't have cried, he would have just walked away thinking he was still 10/10 and the interviewer had no clue. 1 yr experience seems pretty arrogant to think he is 10/10 and I don't think that arrogance would have been altered by a grueling interview from Gail.


Probably not... but I would have loved to have seen this interview!


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I remember seeing a CV where someone had rated himself 10/10 on 4 versions of Windows (XP, 2000, 98, NT4), two versions of SQL Server (2000, 2005) and a version of Oracle (forget which). He had 3 years work experience and a year studying for an IT diploma. I begged my teamlead to allow an interview, just so I could see exactly what this guy did know. He refused :-(


Too bad. It is probably good that you didn't make that poor guy cry so early into his career though.


He wouldn't have cried, he would have just walked away thinking he was still 10/10 and the interviewer had no clue. 1 yr experience seems pretty arrogant to think he is 10/10 and I don't think that arrogance would have been altered by a grueling interview from Gail.


Probably not... but I would have loved to have seen this interview!



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I remember seeing a CV where someone had rated himself 10/10 on 4 versions of Windows (XP, 2000, 98, NT4), two versions of SQL Server (2000, 2005) and a version of Oracle (forget which). He had 3 years work experience and a year studying for an IT diploma. I begged my teamlead to allow an interview, just so I could see exactly what this guy did know. He refused :-(

I guess your team lead was more humane than you were - no-one with that CV should ever be interviewed, for fear of driving them to suicide or depressive insanity.


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BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I love interviewing self-proclaimed "10's". "Death by porkchop".

You know, speaking of "death by porkchop" I admit I'm curious about that spud gun I read about a while back.



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OK, this is weird.
Some guy just started a thread with as title a part of my signature.
The post itself is a reply from me taken from another thread.

When you look at his posts, they seem to be like spam, but done by a human.

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BWAAA-HAAAA!!!! I love interviewing self-proclaimed "10's". "Death by porkchop".

You know, speaking of "death by porkchop" I admit I'm curious about that spud gun I read about a while back.


So is it conceal and carry? Or just lay it out there on the desk at the start of the interrogation - I mean interview process?
Or worse yet, you ask "so you think you're a 10?", as you load up a round.
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OK, this is weird.
Some guy just started a thread with as title a part of my signature.
The post itself is a reply from me taken from another thread.

When you look at his posts, they seems to be like spam, but done by a human.

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Search1-0-2.aspx?SessionID=irijmp2x22o3kn55vaiwcrbw&SortBy=2&SortOrder=1


Looks to me like some kind of bot that scrapes content from SSC forum pages and reposts snippets of it. Maybe he's testing it here.


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OK, this is weird.
Some guy just started a thread with as title a part of my signature.
The post itself is a reply from me taken from another thread.

When you look at his posts, they seems to be like spam, but done by a human.

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Search1-0-2.aspx?SessionID=irijmp2x22o3kn55vaiwcrbw&SortBy=2&SortOrder=1


Looks to me like some kind of bot that scrapes content from SSC forum pages and reposts snippets of it. Maybe he's testing it here.


You know, the temptation to start a new thread using your reply just about overwhelmed me. I resisted it barely, knowing that posting this reply about how difficult it was to resist would accomplish the same end...
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