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OK, where I work, it seems that when they were remodelling (before I started) they "fixed" the air conditioning...

As in, one of the old hands stated where I'm sitting used to be the hottest part of the office in the summer because it had no vents overhead. Now it has vents, I sit right below one, and I'm putting my hand by the exhaust of the PC to try to warm up the fingers!

Going to be bringing in a bloody sweater to try to keep warm soon...


I had that problem at one place I worked. They did nothing about it when I complained. I even suggested an easy fix would be a snap-attach diverter. No good. No one did a thing.

So, I brought in a rather large umbrella and duct-taped it to the back of my chair which also cut out some of the nasty glare from the new lights. They eventually got the hint and put a diverter in the vent and the bonus was they put diffusers on the lights, too!

I don't know who the people are that design many of the offices that I've had to work in but they need to work in some of the places they designed or go back to school.


Duct tape + umbrella -- I think I have some bright pink duct tape....

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OK, where I work, it seems that when they were remodelling (before I started) they "fixed" the air conditioning...

As in, one of the old hands stated where I'm sitting used to be the hottest part of the office in the summer because it had no vents overhead. Now it has vents, I sit right below one, and I'm putting my hand by the exhaust of the PC to try to warm up the fingers!

Going to be bringing in a bloody sweater to try to keep warm soon...


I had that problem at one place I worked. They did nothing about it when I complained. I even suggested an easy fix would be a snap-attach diverter. No good. No one did a thing.

So, I brought in a rather large umbrella and duct-taped it to the back of my chair which also cut out some of the nasty glare from the new lights. They eventually got the hint and put a diverter in the vent and the bonus was they put diffusers on the lights, too!

I don't know who the people are that design many of the offices that I've had to work in but they need to work in some of the places they designed or go back to school.


This reminds of the building I worked in on the job immediately prior to my current post. It had been completely renovated (formerly the campus library) and the floor I worked on (the top floor) used to be part of the stacks. When the designers planned the lighting for our space (a large open room), they specified ceiling fixtures that would provide the full amount of light required, apparently forgetting about the several very large, south-facing windows that alone provided most of the necessary light on sunny days. With white surfaces on our workstations, we had to wear welding helmets to avoid being blinded until we removed the fluorescent tubes from every other ceiling fixture. Brilliant!


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Posted Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:20 AM


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OK, where I work, it seems that when they were remodelling (before I started) they "fixed" the air conditioning...

As in, one of the old hands stated where I'm sitting used to be the hottest part of the office in the summer because it had no vents overhead. Now it has vents, I sit right below one, and I'm putting my hand by the exhaust of the PC to try to warm up the fingers!

Going to be bringing in a bloody sweater to try to keep warm soon...


I had that problem at one place I worked. They did nothing about it when I complained. I even suggested an easy fix would be a snap-attach diverter. No good. No one did a thing.

So, I brought in a rather large umbrella and duct-taped it to the back of my chair which also cut out some of the nasty glare from the new lights. They eventually got the hint and put a diverter in the vent and the bonus was they put diffusers on the lights, too!

I don't know who the people are that design many of the offices that I've had to work in but they need to work in some of the places they designed or go back to school.


This reminds of the building I worked in on the job immediately prior to my current post. It had been completely renovated (formerly the campus library) and the floor I worked on (the top floor) used to be part of the stacks. When the designers planned the lighting for our space (a large open room), they specified ceiling fixtures that would provide the full amount of light required, apparently forgetting about the several very large, south-facing windows that alone provided most of the necessary light on sunny days. With white surfaces on our workstations, we had to wear welding helmets to avoid being blinded until we removed the fluorescent tubes from every other ceiling fixture. Brilliant!


Actually, they knew it was going to be an IT shop, and they figured that they needed enough lights to handle all of the night work (devs fixing stuff that broke the app, dba head-slapping the devs for breaking the database, etc). Unfortunately, the electricians didn't get this word, so they didn't see the need to wire up the lights so that every other one would be controlled by different light switches...


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GilaMonster (7/2/2013)
Brandie, you can be sooo evil.


Hee. If he can be vague, so can I. @=)

EDIT: Oh, wait. You meant the OTHER post. (I am cackling right now. Is that bad?)


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GilaMonster (7/2/2013)
Brandie, you can be sooo evil.

If that's the thread I think it is, I think she was very kind and gentle. You should see what one person I know wrote to a prima-donna programmer who demanded root privilege on one of the departmental Unix servers, and a few weeks after having been granted it (as the only way to get him to shut up) tried to clean up one of his own directories by running
rm -r *

By the way, I loved your comment there just a quarter of an hour less than a day ago. Decided to stay out of it because I couldn't contribute anything helpful (I doubted if anyone could, it looked like one would have to choose between being unhelpful because reply was insufficiently technical, being unhelpful because reply was incomprehensible to OP, or giving keystroke by keystroke instructions interactively - which I imagine no-one would do on this website).


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L' Eomot Inversé (7/2/2013)
You should see what one person I know wrote to a prima-donna programmer who demanded root privilege on one of the departmental Unix servers, and a few weeks after having been granted it (as the only way to get him to shut up) tried to clean up one of his own directories by running
rm -r *



Surely an "f" is also needed to make that particularly damaging, unless they're really inept enough to confirm each individual delete?
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Posted Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:47 AM


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Lynn Pettis (7/1/2013)
Just dropping by to let you know where I am.

I made it to Bagram last night but looks like I get to hang out here another day (at least) before heading on to Kabul.

Just a piece of advice for those you have never travelled military air, you really have nothing to complain about. When you have to load and unload your own baggage from the plane you begin to appreciate what they do for you.


Glad the trip is going well Lynn. Regarding baggage: I usually travel light enough that knowing they DIDN'T lose my luggage would be a bonus most of the time.



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You should see what one person I know wrote to a prima-donna programmer who demanded root privilege on one of the departmental Unix servers, and a few weeks after having been granted it (as the only way to get him to shut up) tried to clean up one of his own directories by running
rm -r *



Surely an "f" is also needed to make that particularly damaging, unless they're really inept enough to confirm each individual delete?

That depends on how your shell is configured. Ordinarily the f flag on rm means "suppress certain error/warning messages" (don't ask me which messages, it's too long since I last used Unix, but the effect is as if it includes the confirmation prompts requested by an i flag). Some shells (certainly C-shell, and at least one other) allow things to be set up so that rm is interpreted as rm -i (-i means prompt for confirmation for each deleted file or directory), but by default they don't interpret rm like that, it does require special setup. When the setup is such that rm is treated as rm -i, rm -f is treated as rm -i -f, and confirmation prompts are warning messages that -f suppresses; I imagine you are used to a shell set up like that so that you expect getting confirmation prompts to be the default. Maybe a lot of people set the shell up like that these days, but it was fairly uncommon way back when, so rm -r * with root privilege could be pretty drastic with or without the f.

Of course since 7 or 8 years ago several Unix systems refuse to allow rm -r / no longer works in some versions of Unix (I think Solaris was the first to so this) and about the same time .GNU acquired a configuration option to disallow rm -r /, so in modern systems rm -r * will not delete anything closer to the root node of filestore than the files in the current directory, which means that in many systems it can do an awful lot less damage than it could at earlier times. So that way for sysadmins to destroy there system is now much less commonly available than it used to be.


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