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Posted Friday, April 19, 2013 7:27 AM
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This is ... interesting. The town I live in is shut down for a manhunt. MBTA completely shut down. Thanks to the magic of technology, it is still a work day, but man what a weird week. The manhunt is in Watertown, I'm in Newton, both (and several others) are shut down. Hope everyone else in the area has already heard to stay home and inside and is safe.


I've been watching that on Twitter. The Red Cross has posted several tweets on how to keep safe and put your name on a "I'm safe" contact list. I've been retweeting these links as I see them. (WannaBeWriter06). Should I post the link here?


Yeah, I've already let everyone I know know that we're fine, but I bet the link would be helpful for other people too.

Thanks Brandie.


Hrm. Their list was not what I thought it was. It's a Shelter-in-Place document. @RedCrossEastMA on Twitter twitter.com/RedCrossEastMA.

Public transportation is shut down completely, BTW.


Yeah, with public transportation shut down, Boston was essentially shut down anyway.


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From the other side of the fence - I've asked questions here and got ripped a new one because I didn't provide actual examples - sometimes it's hard to figure out how to provide a meaningful example. If I have a codestream that goes on and on, but there's one part that is failing, I think to myself, "this may be a simple thing I just don't know, but someone with more experience may have a direction for me to look if I just provide the error and a description of what I'm trying to do." It does happen - sometimes I know what a problem is just from the error message, so I can help someone else without making them feel like they've committed a mortal sin. Furthermore, I always Google first, go to BOL, etc. Sometimes I STILL can't find an answer I can understand. Finally, I've asked "best practices" and "what's your opinion" questions and gotten blasted for not providing specifics. It's not a question on a specific problem - it's me looking to see what the consensus is for best practices because I'm always on a mission to learn, and I know many people here are experts. It doesn't happen every time - I've certainly gotten help here, too, for which I am grateful - but it happens frequently enough (and interestingly enough, that seems to come in waves, too) to make me always think twice before I ask a question. Is it a bad thing to try and learn something from another human after you've read one incomprehensible blog posting and book after another and you still don't feel you have a firm grasp of something? If you're the lone tech geek somewhere, you're gonna ask "stupid" questions, so a little patience is a virtue. And yes, I've seen the "I can't be bothered to Google/research it" questions, but that's not the case with EVERY "stupid" question.

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Welcome to the Thread.

You're right. It's very wrong of us here to be unhelpful and unwelcoming even if the question doesn't provide enough information to enable us to supply a meaningful answer. It's something I've been more mindful of lately, but I appreciate the input and reminder.

Never hesitate to ask a question and never hesitate to call us out on bad behavior.

And always, if you need a little special help, come by the Thread here.


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Late to the game, but well done Jason & Wayne.


Thanks Grant.
BTW... are you the next MCM from the SSC group?


Ha! Doubtful. That requires actual brains & skills. I don't have a single MS certification.


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Posted Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:50 PM


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Time and again I've read in the news folks absolutely ruin their own lives over dumb forum stuff even when posting under what they perceive as an anonymous handle. But yeah, I hear you about that 12 step program!


LOL That may be exactly why I don't have a "handle". ...


If you had a handle, you would be a teapot.


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Posted Monday, April 22, 2013 5:46 AM
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That's very kind, and I appreciate it! I appreciate the other responses here, as well.

Thanks --

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So this morning as I'm getting ready for work, I can't find earrings to match my shirt and I say "I need more jewelry."

The SO looks at me for a moment and then says "There is no response to that comment that I can make that won't get me in trouble."

Hee. I have trained him well.


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So this morning as I'm getting ready for work, I can't find earrings to match my shirt and I say "I need more jewelry."

The SO looks at me for a moment and then says "There is no response to that comment that I can make that won't get me in trouble."

Hee. I have trained him well.
He is incorrect. The appropriate response is to say "Yes, darling, I felt the same way, that's why I bought you these..."


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So this morning as I'm getting ready for work, I can't find earrings to match my shirt and I say "I need more jewelry."

The SO looks at me for a moment and then says "There is no response to that comment that I can make that won't get me in trouble."

Hee. I have trained him well.
He is incorrect. The appropriate response is to say "Yes, darling, I felt the same way, that's why I bought you these..."


Have to agree with Jon on this.
"There is no response to that comment that I can make that won't get me in trouble" is the response to several comments including "Does my butt look big in this" - when it clearly does.
Defensiveness by rote is but one indicator that he's in need of a night off with the boys


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The problem is he doesn't know jewelry from boo. He'd be just as likely to get me something hideous as he would to luck out and get me something pretty. So we've agreed that he will only buy me jewelry when I specifically point something out to him and say "That."

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So this morning as I'm getting ready for work, I can't find earrings to match my shirt and I say "I need more jewelry."

The SO looks at me for a moment and then says "There is no response to that comment that I can make that won't get me in trouble."

Hee. I have trained him well.


Hopefully you have a con coming up soon and can fulfil this need.


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