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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:48 AM


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One of the best comments on trust I ever heard was this one:

"When a train goes through a tunnel and it gets dark, you don't throw away the ticket and jump off. You sit still and trust the engineer."


We just have to learn to sit still longer, that's all. We are so conditioned today to immediately not trust people from the get go...


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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 AM


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TravisDBA (10/31/2012)
One of the best comments on trust I ever heard was this one:

"When a train goes through a tunnel and it gets dark, you don't throw away the ticket and jump off. You sit still and trust the engineer."


We just have to learn to sit still longer, that's all. We are so conditioned today to immediately not trust people from the get go...

It's a great quote, but a little misleading because it lacks context. Before you get on the train, you already know a whole load of background stuff about the train operator (rail safety stats, the fact there are legal requirements, health and safety laws and so on).

I don't believe we are conditioned to not trust people, but we are conditioned to be cautious. That means taking a few relatively safe calculated risks to build up a better picture, then trusting or not based on real evidence. When we take on a new administrator (DBA, sysadmin etc.), we don't promote their account to God rights the day they walk through the door; we sit down with them and steadily hand over important systems over time, evaluating how they act as we go. We're not distrustful of them, but similarly we're not treating trust as binary (I think I used that term in one of my posts last time this editorial was published).


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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:54 AM


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TravisDBA (10/31/2012)
One of the best comments on trust I ever heard was this one:

"When a train goes through a tunnel and it gets dark, you don't throw away the ticket and jump off. You sit still and trust the engineer."


We just have to learn to sit still longer, that's all. We are so conditioned today to immediately not trust people from the get go...

It's a great quote, but a little misleading because it lacks context. Before you get on the train, you already know a whole load of background stuff about the train operator (rail safety stats, the fact there are legal requirements, health and safety laws and so on).



I agree with your train operator logic. However, many times, particularly with quotes, you have to look at the overall message the quote is trying to convey to you. Quotes aren't always meant to be taken absolutely literally.


"Technology is a weird thing. It brings you great gifts with one hand, and it stabs you in the back with the other. ..."
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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:02 AM


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TravisDBA (10/31/2012)
One of the best comments on trust I ever heard was this one:

"When a train goes through a tunnel and it gets dark, you don't throw away the ticket and jump off. You sit still and trust the engineer."


We just have to learn to sit still longer, that's all. We are so conditioned today to immediately not trust people from the get go...

It's a great quote, but a little misleading because it lacks context. Before you get on the train, you already know a whole load of background stuff about the train operator (rail safety stats, the fact there are legal requirements, health and safety laws and so on).



I agree with your train operator logic. However, many times, particularly with quotes, you have to look at the overall message the quote is trying to convey to you. Quotes aren't always meant to be taken absolutely literally.

Agreed, and when I looked at the overall message I saw it was flawed. Instead of just a choice between blind trust and blind panic, there's a third option - that of informed decision.


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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:13 AM


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Good point. I have never researched a train company or an airway before I got on to one in all the years I have travelled. Guess maybe i should have, but I never really did. I wonder how many people really do this anyway?

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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:19 AM


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Well, we all do, but not usually explicitly. We most of us, I'm sure, think twice before buying a ticket from an airline that's just had a crash in the news, especially if it's not the first in recent memory. Admittedly, many of us will still go ahead because the media tells us flying is still a pretty safe option, but we'll have made an informed choice nonetheless.

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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:23 AM


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majorbloodnock (10/31/2012)
Well, we all do, but not usually explicitly. We most of us, I'm sure, think twice before buying a ticket from an airline that's just had a crash in the news, especially if it's not the first in recent memory. Admittedly, many of us will still go ahead because the media tells us flying is still a pretty safe option, but we'll have made an informed choice nonetheless.


We ALL do? Big group. Hmmmm, news to me. Well good to know anyway.


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Posted Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:32 AM


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Well, we all do, but not usually explicitly. We most of us, I'm sure, think twice before buying a ticket from an airline that's just had a crash in the news, especially if it's not the first in recent memory. Admittedly, many of us will still go ahead because the media tells us flying is still a pretty safe option, but we'll have made an informed choice nonetheless.


We ALL do? Big group. Hmmmm, news to me. Well good to know anyway.

Yes. All of us do, most of the time. No-one goes through life without making some informed decisions, even if subconsciously. That's why advertising works.


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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:02 AM
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No-one goes through life without making some informed decisions...


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