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eramya
eramya
Posted Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:09 PM
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you took a lot of pain to explain things... i might take a week to go thr' all your posts...
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Jeff Moden
Jeff Moden
Posted Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:34 PM
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Thanks, eramya... but with about 13,000 posts total, I'm thinking it may take more than a week. :P
--Jeff Moden
"
RBAR
is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "
R
ow-
B
y-
A
gonizing-
R
ow".
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."
For better, quicker answers on T-SQL questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
For better answers on performance questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/
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eramya
eramya
Posted Friday, January 02, 2009 7:01 AM
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well, then its time for me to make better use of my week ends:)
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webrunner
webrunner
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 9:09 AM
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Thanks, Jeff,
This is good advice for any type of forum post for help. But especially useful for SQL.
- webrunner
-------------------
"The chemistry must be respected." - Walter White
"A SQL query walks into a bar and sees two tables. He walks up to them and says 'Can I join you?'"
Ref.:
http://tkyte.blogspot.com/2009/02/sql-joke.html
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Jeff Moden
Jeff Moden
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 9:37 AM
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webrunner (2/9/2009)
Thanks, Jeff,
This is good advice for any type of forum post for help. But especially useful for SQL.
- webrunner
Thanks, WebRunner... I appreciate the feedback.
--Jeff Moden
"
RBAR
is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "
R
ow-
B
y-
A
gonizing-
R
ow".
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."
For better, quicker answers on T-SQL questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
For better answers on performance questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/
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osskey
osskey
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 9:48 AM
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Great post! I'm so tired of looking at code that makes my eyes bleed. Jeff is spot on with the view that if you don't care about your code, no one else will; besides, it takes so little effort to make your code readable. This advice is equally applicable across all languages and environments.
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Jeff Moden
Jeff Moden
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 10:43 AM
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Thanks, Osskey... I appreciate the feedback.
This doesn't apply just to forums when it comes to readability and self or embedded documentation. I started a consulting job about 7 months ago and even the people who've been hear longer than me can figure out what's going on in some of the code. When it comes to embedded comments, the code is a virtual desert. When it comes to readability, whenever you need to work on a piece of that legacy code, you actually have to reformat it to read it. Absolutely no standards were invoked never mind followed. It's really a mess.
--Jeff Moden
"
RBAR
is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for "
R
ow-
B
y-
A
gonizing-
R
ow".
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
Stop thinking about what you want to do to a row... think, instead, of what you want to do to a column."
For better, quicker answers on T-SQL questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Best+Practices/61537/
For better answers on performance questions, click on the following...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/SQLServerCentral/66909/
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Olga B
Olga B
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 11:24 AM
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Great article. The best thing about the suggested approach is that if the poster takes the time to define the problem and consider the test data and the desired output, chances are the solution will present itself.
If it doesn't, I may have to post my question after all. :D
And, incidentally, thank you for the trick with QUOTENAME! I live, I learn.
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Lynn Pettis
Lynn Pettis
Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 11:36 AM
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Olga B (2/9/2009)
Great article. The best thing about the suggested approach is that if the poster takes the time to define the problem and consider the test data and the desired output, chances are the solution will present itself.
If it doesn't, I may have to post my question after all. :D
There actually has been a few documented cases of just that happening, but that isn't the norm.
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Olga B
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Posted Monday, February 09, 2009 12:03 PM
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Lynn Pettis (2/9/2009)
Olga B (2/9/2009)
Great article. The best thing about the suggested approach is that if the poster takes the time to define the problem and consider the test data and the desired output, chances are the solution will present itself.
If it doesn't, I may have to post my question after all. :D
There actually has been a few documented cases of just that happening, but that isn't the norm.
I suspect it's because thinking through the problem is not the norm. ;)
When answering support questions my policy is to wait about 20 minutes for all non-work-stopping requests. It's amazing how many times I get a "Never mind, I figured it out" message 18 minutes later.
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