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Posted Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:20 PM


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Is there any free version of SQL Refactor available for MVP's? I had the trial version and reformatted lots of code and now the trial period has expired []



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Posted Friday, May 11, 2007 5:26 AM
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Hi Dinakar,

If you head to http://www.red-gate.com/about/community_relations/friends_of_RG.htm you can find out more about our Friends of Red Gate program.

You can have access to our products through this so if you're interested please let me know.

Best wishes,

Rachel.

Rachel Hawley

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+44 (0)870 160 0037 - ext 68

 

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Posted Friday, May 11, 2007 10:11 AM


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Hi Rachel
I would be interested in the "Friends" program..What would I need to do? I didnt find any link to sign up. Also I dont see any list of the existing "Friends". I was trying to locate a buddy that I know is a member of the program.


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Posted Monday, May 14, 2007 4:16 AM
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Hi Dinakar,

I'll email all of the details to you directly.

Best wishes,

Rachel.

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Posted Monday, May 14, 2007 9:08 AM


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Sure, Thanks Rachel.

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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:28 AM


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What a cheesy cheapskate you are!  Open your wallet (that's the dust-covered lump you sit on.  No, the other lump.).  Pull out a credit card and do what normal hard-working users do (no, not what open-source users do and steal software, but what real normal users do: BUY IT!).  Quit looking for socialist handouts.  Support the developers and pay for the products you use! 



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Posted Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:36 AM


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"Quit looking for socialist handouts."

Mark

Actually, a "socialist" handout would be based on need.  The kind of handout that Dinakar is seeking is more a product of a capitalist society, where companies give freebies to people they perceive as having enough influence that other people would then want to buy their product.  So, if you can get something for free (legally, of course), then why pay for it?  The developers will still get paid and the company's profile will be enhanced... they are, after all, entitled to say no.

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Posted Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:58 AM


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No, requesting a "socialist handout" is someone who expects free goods or services just because they think they deserve it more than someone else.  It is based entirely on greed (not need) and elevated privilege.  It is term to deride socialist economies where the priviledge get the handouts while the needy fight for crumbs.  Companies offering discounts or deals to their choice of consumer is free market at work.  Prima donnas demanding free products because of their self-perceived value is not capitalism, it is pure and simple greed and abuse of privilege.

I will not be surprised if Dinakar does not get renominated for MVP.  I have emailed the requesting address to report this abuse of the MVP award by demanding favors based on his award.  MVP is awarded to those who selflessly assist others, promoting the technology above and beyond compensation.  It is not an award for demanding privileges.





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I think the word "demanding" is too strong - how about "enquiring about"?  But I agree - it isn't an award for demanding privileges.  You have to put in the legwork to become an MVP before being entitled to such privileges.  When I spent some time abroad, I was never ashamed to show my student or YHA cards and ask whether a discount was available.  Sometimes they said yes, sometimes they said no.  You may not like the fact that YHA members get 10% off admission to the aquarium in Sydney, that students sometimes pay less for flights, or that MVPs can blag free software, but you really can't blame people for playing to the rules of the system by which they are bound.

Here is what the Friends of Red Gate web page says:

At Red Gate, we take our relationship with the SQL Server and .NET communities very seriously. This has led to our creating a program entirely for valued community members.

The Friends of Red Gate program is aimed at active and influential community members, such as popular blog writers and community site owners, as well as those MVPs who are experts and gurus in their relevant fields. These people have ideas and opinions about the technologies they work with and, over time, they have come to know Red Gate, and our products, well.

The purpose of the program is to give valued people in the community the chance to use and review Red Gate's tools, allowing them to become better informed about the capabilities of the products and, therefore, able to help others who are having problems which could be solved using Red Gate's tools.

If you are an influential community member, expert, or guru, and would like to know more about this program, please contact Rachel Hawley for more information, explaining why you think you might qualify.

This suggests to me that Dinakar is well within his rights to apply for membership.  Red Gate may or may not form the opinion that Dinakar is a "cheesy cheapskate" and refuse his request, but if they don't, then I shall be happy for him.  It's clear that Red Gate don't do this out of the goodness of their hearts; they do it because they believe that such people will influence others to use their products.

John

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Posted Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:43 AM


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John;

I wholly agree with you.   I am perfectly fine with RedGate offering their products to influential people to generate "buzz".  I am perfectly fine with you requesting discounts with your YHA card, as that is the intended purpose of the organization. 

However, Dinakar is not requesting a copy for evaluation.  He has already developed a solution using trial version, and is now moaning (he did say ) he cannot deploy it because its not free.  If its useful for his production, he should pay for it.  Life is not free (or even open source).





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