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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:05 PM


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Rick:

http://www.sql-server-performance.com/covering_indexes.asp




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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:43 PM


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Doesn't every DBA start as a junior DBA?  I see DBA's as being a senior level IT postition though, so a senior developer or admin might become a junior DBA.  I doubt that I would ever hire somebody straight out of school, or new to IT, as a DBA.  I want somebody with some serious battle-scars to watch over our data.

There are some jobs that just need a wide range of experience to be effective at and DBA and Data Architect are some of them.  A senior DBA is a candidate to become a junior Data Architect etc...  DBA is not an entry level job in my book.




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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:11 PM


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Technically, maybe.

But no one with 10 years of IT experience is going to take the job "junior"-ANYTHING. At least, no one I know.


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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:20 PM


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Yeah, I suppose your're right.  I don't recall a DBA position with "junior" in the title anywhere.




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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:38 PM
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Actually, I started my IT career as a junior DBA (this was in 1999, before the dot com meltdown). I was working for a large private company in Minnesota and going to school part-time so I could switch to IT. The DBA group had 3 senior DBA's and they were looking for someone to do the routine work, i.e. set up users, backup databases, help developers with simple problems. But my situation is the exception, not the rule.

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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:12 PM


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So how was it? Were you mentored? Do you feel that you were "brought up" well by the senior DBAs in the organization? Do you wish you'd taken a different career path?


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Posted Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:40 PM
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Oh yes, I'm glad I took the job. The senior DBA's were great at teaching me although I did give them some grief from time to time. Like the time I made a production database "disappear" while learning about the SQL Server 6.5 copy object wizard. Funny, now I have a general distaste for all types of wizards...

Since then I've moved on to other jobs, moving back and forth between DBA and Database developer positions. I'm currently a Database Engineer(developer) for a .com, and I get to work with SQL Server 2005!

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They don't call toilet cleaners, toilet cleaners either. They are either sanitation engineers or hygiene executives.
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Which goes back to my original point... since there are no 'Junior DBA' jobs, the hoards of junior DBA's are going to inflate their resume's and try to squirm through the interview process to try to get a "Senior DBA' job.

The result for the interviwer is going to be a lot of people who look good on paper, that think that a varchar is a char that was left on the grill for too long.

However, from the interviewee's perspective, what choice do you have? You have to get a job somehow, and you don't want to abandon the education you just worked so hard to get.

No easy answer, is there?  

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Posted Friday, September 23, 2005 7:01 PM


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"a varchar is a char that was left on the grill for too long"

I love it!




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