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Posted Monday, April 7, 2014 8:40 PM


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Posted Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:56 AM


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I think it would be worthwhile to discuss top Connect items. Not everyone will be interested in every one and, just like the Question of the Day, it is likely to discuss various areas of SQL Server.

I had already voted on the SPs but now have voted for the errors Connect item.


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Posted Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:49 PM
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+1 Absolutely add it. Not only can we vote on them but we will get visiability into issues that we have not personally experienced yet.
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Posted Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:50 PM
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I vote on it because it's all I can do but I consider the situation utterly hopeless.

I've encountered too many issues and gone back to see lots of votes with people continually asking for it, while Microsoft closes it as fixed or won't fix, and without explanation. Meanwhile, people continue to leave comments about how important it is...

Or when Microsoft do provide an explanation, it's 6-12 months later, and rarely even meets the lowest expectation of adequacy. Or a quick "we've reproduced the issue" followed by a year or more of utter silence.

Most of the time they don't even understand what is being asked. Even when being provided an explicit sample; or where there is enough basic information for me to immediately reproduce it even as an intermediate DBA.

I almost feel like that people who monitor Connect are not DBAs and/or are not working on the SQL Server product, that it's outsourced to people who have no idea what they're doing, and merely acting as moderators while passing on the barest of statistics to the production team for them to look at once in a million years.

On the other hand, there is one SSDT forum (it's not a Connect one) where those developers actively participate and is actually really awesome to read. So, it's not the entire product.
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Posted Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:34 AM
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Cody K (4/8/2014)
Microsoft closes it as fixed or won't fix

That's my common experience too.
The other favourite is "this will be fixed in the next version", but we're already several versions on, and still no sign of a fix.
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In Washington D.C., lobbyists use money, sex, and three martini lunches to promote their cause and grease the skids. Can we do that with Microsoft?
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Eric M Russell (4/9/2014)
In Washington D.C., lobbyists use money, sex, and three martini lunches to promote their cause and grease the skids. Can we do that with Microsoft?


I wish someone would lobby me


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Posted Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:44 PM


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Eric M Russell (4/9/2014)
In Washington D.C., lobbyists use money, sex, and three martini lunches to promote their cause and grease the skids. Can we do that with Microsoft?


BWAAA-HAAA!!!! I'd sometimes love to take Microsoft out for a nice pork-chop dinner! As for the sex part of that, I guess it would all boil down to where I aim the pork-chops.


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In Washington D.C., lobbyists use money, sex, and three martini lunches to promote their cause and grease the skids. Can we do that with Microsoft?


BWAAA-HAAA!!!! I'd sometimes love to take Microsoft out for a nice pork-chop dinner! As for the sex part of that, I guess it would all boil down to where I aim the pork-chops.

Maybe Microsoft should replace the 'Vote' button with a PayPal button.
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