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Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:32 AM
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I'm a graduating student and I want to be a DB admin in the future. Where should I start? I know mysql and php.

I searched in this forum and can't see where beginners should start. Kindly lead the way please. I'm kinda confuse. Thanks in advance!
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Where should you start? Generally either on the sysadmin side or the developer side. DBAs aren't usually hired with no experience at all, it's a big risk handing over the company's data to someone straight out of school. Junior sysadmin jobs are easier, though probably not as easy as junior, entry level developer jobs.

It's easier to join a company as say a database developer and move across to the DBA side than it is to be hired straight as a DBA with 0 experience.

http://www.brentozar.com/archive/2009/04/how-to-get-a-junior-dba-job-part-1/



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Firstly, welcome to SCC

There have been loads of discussions on this topic in the past. Try with the search box (top-right) and see what you find.
Here is one I found for you:

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic806663-1291-1.aspx


For me it was taking a hefty pay-cut (a worthwhile sacrifice IMHO) to get the opportunity to become a DBA. But I did have experience as a database developer/MIS Analyst prior to making the switch. Others will have a different story to tell.

Some other links you'll find useful:

http://www.johnsansom.com/
http://www.brentozar.com/

Good luck!


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Thank you Sir for the replies I appreciate it a lot.

I am clueless sir where and what to study first I'm currently reading an ebook on "How to be an exceptional DBA"
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Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:14 AM


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jervyn_almanon (11/20/2013)
Thank you Sir for the replies I appreciate it a lot.

I am clueless sir where and what to study first I'm currently reading an ebook on "How to be an exceptional DBA"


I wouldn't want to discourage you from reading any books but I don't think that's the right place to start. I've been at this for a year and a half and I don't feel I'm even an average DBA yet!

Personally I would work on getting your CV/resume prepared so that you can confidently apply for junior SQL Server positions when you've graduated. You need to get an opportunity to get your hands dirty with MS SQL Server day in day out. Build yourself a test server at home and play around with it. Enthusiasm and a can-do attitude when starting out your IT career will help you get the opportunity you want. But as has been pointed out above, securing a DBA position as a first job is going to be almost impossible as nobody is going to make you the gatekeeper to their data if you've had no prior experience.

Best of luck.


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Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:22 AM
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Thank you Sir for the replies I appreciate it a lot.

I am clueless sir where and what to study first I'm currently reading an ebook on "How to be an exceptional DBA"


I wouldn't want to discourage you from reading any books but I don't think that's the right place to start. I've been at this for a year and a half and I don't feel I'm even an average DBA yet!

Personally I would work on getting your CV/resume prepared so that you can confidently apply for junior SQL Server positions when you've graduated. You need to get an opportunity to get your hands dirty with MS SQL Server day in day out. Build yourself a test server at home and play around with it. Enthusiasm and a can-do attitude when starting out your IT career will help you get the opportunity you want. But as has been pointed out above, securing a DBA position as a first job is going to be almost impossible as nobody is going to make you the gatekeeper to their data if you've had no prior experience.

Best of luck.


Thank you sir. I'm not expecting to get a junior SQL server position. Because in the future I plan to take trainings and certifications. As of now I don't have enough money so I want to self study.

Sir do you know any links where I can study/learn how to use MS SQL server for free so I can start creating my own test server?

Thank you so much.
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Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:25 AM


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jervyn_almanon (11/20/2013)
Thank you Sir for the replies I appreciate it a lot.

I am clueless sir where and what to study first I'm currently reading an ebook on "How to be an exceptional DBA"

As a PASS Chapter leader I would strongly recommend you find a local chapter and start attending their meetings.
http://www.sqlpass.org/PASSChapters/LocalChapters.aspx
If you can't find a local chapter then start one. I started the chapter in Albuquerque and it was pretty easy. Another option is to join a virtual chapter to get a ton of free learning.

After that the next step would be to speak at your local chapter on a topic you really enjoy.




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Posted Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:32 AM
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Thank you Sir for the replies I appreciate it a lot.

I am clueless sir where and what to study first I'm currently reading an ebook on "How to be an exceptional DBA"

As a PASS Chapter leader I would strongly recommend you find a local chapter and start attending their meetings.
http://www.sqlpass.org/PASSChapters/LocalChapters.aspx
If you can't find a local chapter then start one. I started the chapter in Albuquerque and it was pretty easy. Another option is to join a virtual chapter to get a ton of free learning.

After that the next step would be to speak at your local chapter on a topic you really enjoy.


Thank you sir I saw one but no post in the forum. I'll try to find virtual chapters thank you so much
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I can't really advise because I'm fairly new to the game myself, but one thing to do would be to look at job adverts and see what skills they're asking for. Also try to work out what sort of DBA you'd want to be (Production, Development, other). You may not figure this out until you have a bit more experience under your belt, though; http://www.brentozar.com/sql/picking-a-dba-career-path/

There's no substitute for practical experience, but you can download the Express edition of SQL Server legally and for free here so you can work on it on your own computer. It doesn't have all of the functionality of the paid-for versions but you won't need them yet.

There are even free databases you can download to work with, containing sample data. Adventureworks is the SQL Server 2008 version.

Finally there are loads of free e-Books on this site. Some of them are quite advanced so you might want to hold off for a bit, but the Backup & Restore book is very useful and I would recommend that. You can download it for free as a pdf, or put it on your Kindle/iPad/whatever.

Hope that helps.
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I can't really advise because I'm fairly new to the game myself, but one thing to do would be to look at job adverts and see what skills they're asking for. Also try to work out what sort of DBA you'd want to be (Production, Development, other). You may not figure this out until you have a bit more experience under your belt, though; http://www.brentozar.com/sql/picking-a-dba-career-path/

There's no substitute for practical experience, but you can download the Express edition of SQL Server legally and for free here so you can work on it on your own computer. It doesn't have all of the functionality of the paid-for versions but you won't need them yet.

There are even free databases you can download to work with, containing sample data. Adventureworks is the SQL Server 2008 version.

Finally there are loads of free e-Books on this site. Some of them are quite advanced so you might want to hold off for a bit, but the Backup & Restore book is very useful and I would recommend that. You can download it for free as a pdf, or put it on your Kindle/iPad/whatever.

Hope that helps.


Thank you sir! This is a great help atleast I have now a starting point. Thank you so much sir.
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