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Posted Friday, July 12, 2013 12:08 PM


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I have enjoyed 3 weeks vacation and unlimited sick time for several years and now find myself in a much different situation.

My current position includes 2 weeks PTO which must cover vacation and sick time.

There are two mandatory shut down periods - the week of July 4 and the week of Christmas through the New Year Holiday. A few of the PTO days are mandatory to be used during the shutdowns, leaving 7 days discretionary.

It is truly plenty of paid time off - I am just having a problem adjusting to having to take it at specific times. Travel is more hectic and expensive during the Christmas season.

I will adjust...it's just a matter of planning for it.
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Posted Friday, July 12, 2013 12:20 PM


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Here is what I've said in another post:
I've worked for the same place now for over 22 years and the philosophy here has always been your earned the vacation so you need to take it. They limit the number of days we can carry over to try and force you to take it. I've never had a manager deny me vacation. On some critical projects I've been asked to shift my days and if I can't, I work with one of my colleges to get them up to speed to take over while I'm gone.

Two weeks of vacation is not enough time for the entire year. I have 25 days now and I use them all each year. That's one of the things I think about when I do get frustrated and think of leaving. I know I won't get that from the start any where else.

If the place you work at would crumble if you took a vacation, I would find a different job. You have either made the situation that way or you don't have competent coworkers.

Life is to short not to take your vacation.


That's 25 days plus national holidays and about 600 hours of sick time. As I said above, hearing what others are getting for vacation time keeps me here.

I do think you need to take two weeks off in a row to truly disconnect and recharge, I only learned that over the last two years.

I should have said some major holidays(New Years, Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day, Thanksgiving + day after, Christmas).
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Posted Friday, July 12, 2013 8:57 PM


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When I was terminated from my prior company I had 12 days vacation. It was a nice severance. My new company had 17 days Paid Time Off (PTO) for both vacation and sick days. The newest company that bought us out has 15 vacation days and the normal U.S. Holidays. Their view is if you're sick, you're sick -- stay home. But they also have many remote workers, so a lot of them can still do the job even if they are under the weather, so it usually not an issue.

I just look at it that without a family, I never really worry about it. And I usually do best doing extended weekends and just having screw-off days throughout the year.




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Posted Monday, July 15, 2013 6:05 AM
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Steve,

Thanks for the article. Much appreciated.

Very interesting! Food for thought!

Keep them coming!
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Posted Monday, July 15, 2013 7:47 AM
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belowery (7/12/2013)
That's one of the things I think about when I do get frustrated and think of leaving. I know I won't get that from the start any where else.

Holiday is something you should bear in mind when negotiating for a new job - it's surprising what you can get as perks when the headline salary is pretty much fixed.
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That's one of the things I think about when I do get frustrated and think of leaving. I know I won't get that from the start any where else.

Holiday is something you should bear in mind when negotiating for a new job - it's surprising what you can get as perks when the headline salary is pretty much fixed.


I've thought about that and I've said that to my wife but she doesn't think it would happen. I keep saying if I look now, while I have a good job, I could use what I have now as leverage for getting more at the new job.
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Posted Monday, July 15, 2013 8:24 AM


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That's one of the things I think about when I do get frustrated and think of leaving. I know I won't get that from the start any where else.

Holiday is something you should bear in mind when negotiating for a new job - it's surprising what you can get as perks when the headline salary is pretty much fixed.


I've thought about that and I've said that to my wife but she doesn't think it would happen. I keep saying if I look now, while I have a good job, I could use what I have now as leverage for getting more at the new job.

Absolutely. If a potential employer knows they have to tempt you away from a job you're in, they'll need to offer more in the way of salary and/or benefits. Interesting what David said - I usually find that employers are more flexible on salary than holidays. This is unfortunate for me, since I've refused to consider many opportunities because they don't give enough time off.

John
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Posted Monday, July 15, 2013 8:59 AM
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I've said that to my wife but she doesn't think it would happen. I keep saying if I look now, while I have a good job, I could use what I have now as leverage for getting more at the new job.

That's exactly how it works. Be good at what you do, have a good reason why you want to move on (ie one the new employer doesn't see themselves suffering from, and one that doesn't make you look bad!) and you're almost in the head-hunted category.

John Mitchell-245523 (7/15/2013)

Interesting what David said - I usually find that employers are more flexible on salary than holidays.

John

I guess it depends how flexible they are. Iit does vary a lot, and flexibility says a lot about how good they're going to be to work for.
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Posted Monday, July 15, 2013 10:22 AM
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All told I get 24 days a year PTO National and state holidays, and 12 days sick. I can accumulate as much sick as I can but can only accumulate 240 hrs PTO before I start to loose it at the next anniversary date. FYI - I have been with the same company for the last 28+ years straight and almost five years in a separate stretch before that.

I take all the time off that I earn and would take more if it were available. At 64 and having been in the field for the majority of the last 42 years, I have kept both the faith and the vision. But the first five were followed by a season of burnout. Had I taken the time off that I had earned and played more, that burnout would probably not happened.

No one, even your boss wants you to work yourself to death, so play whenever you are able. And if you are not able to play when you need to, you need to change where you work.

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Posted Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:51 PM


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Thanks Steve. I find myself sitting at a crossroads right now to either take vacation or not. I really need to take that vacation.



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