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Posted Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29 AM


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Craig-315134 (7/11/2013)
It could be even worse. Two guys in black suits with badges show up at your home when you're alone, or at work and say we need to talk alone.

Which is why there is a Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution. There can be no unreasonable search nor seizure of information on the part of the government; further, you have a right to an attorney to be present during such 'interviews' as you've described.

And although I advocate it only as a last resort, there is also a Second Amendment. It would be the last refuge of an oppressed people, but that is exactly why it exists.


Jim's scenario is why you shouldn't reveal anything to law enforcement (in the US) without a lawyer. You never know what might have happened nearby or recently that is the reason you were asked to be talked to. However, despite the 4th amendment, you can be taken in without reasons given and held for a period of time.

I go think that the 4th amendment (and various court decisions later) exist to prevent extended interrogations, but in the US, the Patriot act can preclude this. And some of the decisions taken with the last 4 administrations support this. Which is scary, and not the direction the US government, or any civilized government, should move, IMHO.







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Posted Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:31 AM


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I agree completely, Steve.

The erosion of our civil rights and fundamental freedoms are most worrisome.
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Posted Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:10 AM
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There are some videos on YouTube that explain why you should never say anything to the police! Not even with a lawyer present and i think it is just as applicable to this topic. They go in great details as to why and this is acually a lawschool course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4_EdPwTkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1t3vtr0kxk

Enjoy...if that is the proper phrase!
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