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Posted Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:16 PM


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We are working on "infrastructure as sofware" where the entire build and more importantly the setup of a virtual machine is at the control of the command line.

Unfortunately this is only working in the Linux environments. It did take a lot of work to get it up and running but it is paying dividends now because a machine can be provisioned and/or torn down and rebuilt in seconds.

We can be absolutely sure that the builds for the different types of machine are consistent. The only difference between one web server and another is its name and IP address. Ditto the middleware servers, ditto the application servers.

I don't think that getting SQL Server to preconfigure is insurmountable its a matter of time, effort and a some head scratching.


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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 3:38 AM
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We are working on automated provisioning of everything and private cloud. That everything includes Windows, SQL, AIX, DB2, SAP etc...

But, the weeks of process for approvals before hand are lagging far behind.

I've pre-built scripts to deploy systems and 100s of databases in minutes previously, it's certainly not rocket science, but the processes, approvals, funding etc need to catch up drastically.

The best thing about Cloud, is using it as leverage to show what's possible when IT are unleashed with some development support and decent tooling.



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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 5:06 AM


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We install manually after the blank os on the virtual machine has been provided. Usually takes two weeks to a month before it gets planned in. Bigger items a year (annual budget review). Currently testing automated client-os rollouts shrinking it from two days to half a day(?).
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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 6:27 AM
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The only thing inherently different about the cloud is the lead time for hardware.

Determining specs takes no longer locally, nor does getting an AR approved. You might save a few hours of SQL install time, but configuring is basically the same if you use a template locally as if you use a template offsite.


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The only time I've seen an actual process take 6 months was right after we changed our reseller and leasing partners and had to have hardware in place on foreign soil (China and the UK). In-country provisioning of new hardware from idea to "in-production" would normally take a month at most.

We do have virtualization, and that is at most two weeks from idea to "in-production".
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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 7:12 AM
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I agree that cloud computing might ease the time constraints but for some companies, it's not always an issue of purchasing and installing hardware or even setting up the VM to support that particular instance of SQL Server. The real issues begin to kick in when they start implementing their security models which will dictate what roles your or your group will have access to. Some companies my put an outright ban on allowing sysadmin roles for anyone but their dedicated dba team members. Then we have company specific rules and regulations that need to be thought through. So, even though setting up a virtual machine with SQL Server on it should be fairly straight forward, the rest of the process isn't.

Our last server upgrade went fairly smooth with some exceptions. But from the time we requested the upgrade to SQL Server 2012 to the actual time we had it up and ready for our use, it was at best two months. Thats in a VM shop too. Why so long? The timeing of the event was just all wrong. Our company is going through a major upgrade to one of it's claim systems and people resources are virtually non-existent. Given that and all of the discussions we had to get it set up, the wait was justifiable in the companies eyes. Afterall, we did have an existing server that was working just fine and we really weren't in any rush to get a new server.

So, time delays may be something we may all just need to live with, depending on where you work, their policies, work loads, and the visibility of your server.
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Well, let's see... Our project to upgrade just 4 SQL servers is going on 2 years, now. The biggest thing that seems to be getting in our way is getting approval from the business unit that their applications support SQL Server 2008 R2... Yes, that's right, we're not even talking about 2012. Once all applications on a particular database server have signed-off the nightmare of getting the VM provisioned begins. Forms are completed, emailed, printed, signed and filed off somewhere. We have meeting-after-meeting about the CURRENT and TO BE environments, SQL licensing, and Disaster Recovery.

For the most recent iteration of this project (new SQL server 2 of 4) it took 7 months to go through all of the red tape and get the VM Provisioning specs finalized and approved. Total time from spec completion to VM build... 2 more months. Once it was turned over to the DBAs, total time to get SQL Server installed (Slipstream SP2), configured, and all databases migrated and integrated within existing maintenance plans... 16 hours. **headdesk**
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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 8:46 AM
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My current upgrade project will have been running about a year when it’s complete. Of course, I am assuming that there are no new surprises.

This is the last hardware upgrade, that I can ask for, for the next 5 years.
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Posted Friday, May 24, 2013 9:04 AM


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My current upgrade project will have been running about a year when it’s complete. Of course, I am assuming that there are no new surprises.

This is the last hardware upgrade, that I can ask for, for the next 5 years.

My deepest sympathy. I think in this situation I would be looking for a new job.
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